--- Quote from: MISTER on July 12, 2013, 12:26:40 PM --- I agree to a limit.....I still am not the one back there twisting someone elses throttle, applying pressure to the bars to turn at the proper turn point or iniatiating the brakes for them. Personal rsponsibility comes into play and far too many shuck that and think the leader is responsible for everything that happens.
Personally if I stopped and had a chat with someone (or gave some arm signals) everytime I watched them run over the centerline or stand it up mid corner etc-I would never ride with anyone because I wouldn't get to ride anywhere near how I want to ride... I would not be riding my own ride or anything that would resemble fun to me in the slightest. I do my teaching rides for those kinds of rides... Don't get me wrong I have booted people from rides for riding like a douchebag, and I have pulled over to yell at the people too, usually for following too close and/or constantly crossing the centerline......but the fun has definately left then and no getting it back at that point, so now I just call it quits and leave them to figure out their own ride home, at a gas stop or crash scene. Point them in the general direction and bye bye.
Personal responsibility!!!!!!!
You and only you are responsible for you. Others can offer some guidance or assistance if they chose, but that is not their duty.
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For some reason, my posts keep on disappearing... Not sure why. Here is one of my last deleted posts.
Peer pressure, ride your own ride, group riding... I read a few of your posts on vision, body pos, etc. and I disagree.
Peer pressure on a group ride???? 99.9% of the riders on this forum don't go on group rides to show off or see who's the fastest. People go on these ride to enjoy themselves and their bikes, because that is what it's all about, bikes. Group rides are about safety in numbers and camaraderie. Keeping an eye on and helping each other out. Not many of those "racer types" you speak of, attend the rides I go on. On the contrary, I see very conscientious riders and thus, very few minor incidents. Also, I don't ride because I feel peer pressure to ride. I ride because I enjoy it. So does everyone on this forum.
"Ride your own ride" is just that. Enjoy the road and your bike responsibly within your limits. Enjoy your own ride the way you want to, not the way Lloyd wants you to. For example, on one of your posts, you deride riders that get off on a turn or sit up close to the gas tank. Who cares!!! They are "RIDING THEIR RIDE", not yours Lloyd. Everyone can find their "zone" or their "flow" however they want. If Joe Yamaha wants to stick one cheek, his crack, and half the other cheek out on a turn, so what! It's his choice. He is enjoying his ride. There is no right or wrong here. It's a personal riding style choice an individual makes. I don't really care how someone rides as long as their actions don't endanger others. But you Mister Crabby, want to peer pressure others to ride like you. Not so cool!
Lastly, you may have some good points but it is the way you put them across that makes most wonder what's up. You say something that makes sense and then screw it up by saying something completely outrageous. You want to tell all of us how to do things but accept little input, prooven by all my deleted posts... Read your post above. It's a bit over 2 paragraphs and I counted 12 "I"s. Geez bro!!! It's all I I I. You want everyone to live in Lloyd's world but it is only you in there. My advice to you is, write down your good ideas. Then, remove yourself, your superiority complex, your anger and your condescending tone from them. What is left may be something worth reading.
GUZZI JOHN:
Well said Jam. "I" want "MY" rides to be fun for others so that they will enjoy the experience and maybe come along again. Although I'm the fastest rider in the known Universe and my bike has no equal "I" try to keep those truths to myself.GJ ::)
Jam-Bro:
You are funny GJ, but "I" am the funniest!!! Love the sarcasm...
carlson_mn:
I don't like sarcasm... so I'm never riding with either of you guys again! ;D
Jam-Bro:
Buhuhaaaaa Me neither. "I" am taking all my toys and going home.