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General Category => General Banter => Topic started by: Bobbter600RR on April 21, 2011, 07:07:15 PM
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Ok I want us to have another girls ride!!! I will post this on all the forums I am a part of so hopefully the crowd will be bigger this year. I really think the girls need to show their support for riding!!
Im not sure how to make this a poll or where this thread will be seen most but here goes..
Post up whats best for you
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dont worry about getting too specific yet I need to see how many ladies we can get.. I will not be leading this, but I will start talking to people who know the back roads pretty good and once we get a time frame that works best Ill get a leader, a sweeper (if the group is big enough) and a route!!
Can't wait!!!
Oh and post if you are ok with having a passenger so maybe we can give couple more girls the chance to go.
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As I said...I'm in! If I don't have my license by then I would wanna backpack with someone *cough cough, Denyse* ;D
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I like the once a month big girls rides. I don't know any female riders who know the roads, so if your confident that you will be a comfortable leader and know the roads please let me know and I want to create a couple of routes with you.. Im thinking the first girls ride could be early to mid June, because it sounds like most of the ladies I have heard from will not be available until around then. Please PM if your interested in leading or sweeping as I am all for completely eliminating guys from this ride. I figured we could do a longer ride, maybe stop for lunch again. once I get a route and have an area we can talk about where we might want to stop, what we want to eat etc... CAN'T WAIT!!!
Oh and I was thinking that we could have a couple backpacks at least and they could be in charge of most of the pictures and videos!!
(this is the update so far from the other forum)
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"eliminating guys from this ride" We are a friendly respectful bunch of guys, who like to ride motorcycles. Organize an open ride for everybody, you might be surprised... My experience with the MSTA has to do with character, not gender.
Sorry for the thread-jack.
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its ok Tim, no worries. I am just doing this because I think it would be a great opportunity for the women of all the forums to be able to meet and ride for one all girls ride. I do plan on creating and attending regular rides, but In my experience it has been very rare that I have gotten to meet new female riders on group rides and last year we had one of these and it was a great success. I guess its more like a meet and greet/ride to get all those women out there. Sometimes it is nice to have a few of your own gender to ride with what ever their experience level. I actually posted this on MSTA because I know that a lot of the female riders on here are ALOT more experiences and seasoned then most of the new riders who will be going so I thought it would be nice, if any of them are interested, for them to come and share their experiences and for the younger riders to see how the seasoned riders ride.. At least it sounded brilliant in my head... ;D
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posted in group rides.. And after this ride I really hope that we can get a lot more mixed group out there for some rides :headbang:
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From the post in group rides "ALL GIRLS RIDE!!!!! REVENGE OF THE FEMALES!!!!"
What revenge do you have planning?
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Ok, #1... there is nothing wrong with attempting to set up a "girls" ride. However on this forum in particular there is a very large number of male riders that are well over the 30 yr old age group. Most of these riders have many years experience from which you would benefit greatly from. Thus if you eliminated them from the equation, you would lose out I feel. Since you have stated that you wouldn't be leading or even know some of the routes, I'm not sure of the actual purpose of the ride? If you are simply looking for a get together, why not do so without alienating those riders from which you could benefit the most from?
I'm all about being a strong, independent woman, but there is an intelligent way of going about having your roar heard.
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This does not best describe this forum and it's members. We are all ages and both female and male. We are serious riders and promote events that include all members and not exclude any members. I can appreciate you promoting sister hood with riding but wish you would look at it from the standpoint that we are all riders despite our gender or age and should promote riding that includes not excludes.
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This really is a great group which will support anyone and everyone.
My impression is that a number of the women in question are newer riders. Perhaps we could put together a beginner friendly ride with maybe a few extra stops for idea sharing and socializing. There are a number of good instructors and observant thoughtful riders in the group.
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So the girls want to have their own ride. Good for them. As they get better they'll start leading us around. Maybe.
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"eliminating guys from this ride" We are a friendly respectful bunch of guys, who like to ride motorcycles. Organize an open ride for everybody, you might be surprised... My experience with the MSTA has to do with character, not gender.
Sorry for the thread-jack.
Ok, #1... there is nothing wrong with attempting to set up a "girls" ride. However on this forum in particular there is a very large number of male riders that are well over the 30 yr old age group. Most of these riders have many years experience from which you would benefit greatly from. Thus if you eliminated them from the equation, you would lose out I feel. Since you have stated that you wouldn't be leading or even know some of the routes, I'm not sure of the actual purpose of the ride? If you are simply looking for a get together, why not do so without alienating those riders from which you could benefit the most from?
I'm all about being a strong, independent woman, but there is an intelligent way of going about having your roar heard.
This does not best describe this forum and it's members. We are all ages and both female and male. We are serious riders and promote events that include all members and not exclude any members. I can appreciate you promoting sister hood with riding but wish you would look at it from the standpoint that we are all riders despite our gender or age and should promote riding that includes not excludes.
This really is a great group which will support anyone and everyone.
My impression is that a number of the women in question are newer riders. Perhaps we could put together a beginner friendly ride with maybe a few extra stops for idea sharing and socializing. There are a number of good instructors and observant thoughtful riders in the group.
If someone wants to organize a "girls only" ride good heavens ,leave them be. There are a million different riding styles and varying levels of interest in motorcycling in this group.
So the girls want to have their own ride. Good for them.
Agreed!
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Getting on my soap box for a minute. Let's turn this around, say I post a "guy's" only ride? and made a revenge statement? I would be judged quite harshly and asked why I hate women and probably be black listed and looked down upon. I'm all for promoting the sport to everyone but drawing attention to gender on this forum is not right. The other forums with all the gossip & drama is perfect for this. Just feels like the wrong place for this.
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A couple years ago I posted up a ride here and my post went something like this.
"Looking to get out with a few like-minded riders. I like to do about 15-20mph over posted in the straights and "do-your-own-thing" in the corners". I spelled out exactly what a rider could expect riding with me.
I got flamed by a couple folks (none of the people in this thread, in fact I don't remember who chimed in) and they stated, "that's not the way we ride here"
My point being ..... some folks like to ride 800lb bikes at 10mph under posted, and some like to get a little more aggressive on their rides. Just as I don't like being told "that's not what we do here", I take exception to saying" that's not what we do here" to other riders. If the women want to do a "girls night out" ride, let them. They live in a male-dominated world already ... especially the motorcycle community. I have empathy for women and understand their need to just be with the girls.
And yes, you can make the "equal opportunity" argument, but really man .. are you gonna loose sleep over it? By definition, the 'Curves" ladies workout gyms are illegal as hell, but they exist.
Feh, rant over :)
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If you are feeling left out you can have an all guys ride that same day.
It's still raining out, is their any mud left to sling.
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Missing my point. Greg, you posted a disclaimer in your ride like a waring label not a doesn't include you if.. statement. My point comes from a rights background and having worked with abuse survivors and learning what equality means to many women. Strong independent women want a level playing field not a "pink section" for girls only. Would I go on the ride? If a female friend said to me "I would like you to go with, or take me 2 up so I can go or etc.." then yes. Am I beiing a dick just to be one, NO.
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I prefer setting up rides that meet the desires and wishes of the organizers - and then inviting everyone along. :)
I also hope that all women riders feel they are welcome. It is OK if the women want to set up a ride to be together - as long as they feel welcome and encouraged to come along on all group rides.
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Wow, this thread certainly got some legs.
Personally, I'm open to anyone posting up whatever kind of ride they want to do on the forum. This gives everyone the opportunity to be aware of riding opportunities and to pick and choose the rides they go on. Thanks Bobbi for posting this.
I think we all appreciate the effort it takes to put on a ride, and I hope we can respect anyone's attempt at it, whether we agree or disagree with the way they set up their ride or whether it is a ride that is of interest to us or not. With this in mind, with all the seasoned (hmmm, verging on crusty) folks here, hopefully we have constructive suggestions or offers of assistance for people organizing rides, but out of respect for what it takes to put on a ride, hopefully we refrain from criticism.
I like to think that a focus on rides and riding above and beyond everything else is what this forum is about. With this in mind, I'm glad when folks post any rides on the forum. This gives us more riding opportunities and even if they aren't for me, that doesn't mean that they won't be of interest to others. Lastly if folks post rides which aren't of interest to people here, I'd expect the lack of response to be the simplest and best way to indicate that the poster is wasting their time posting their rides here.
Thanks again for posting Bobbi. Best of luck putting this ride together!
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Duc Man, I sometimes have a pretty large chip on my shoulder regarding posting rides and flak taken for said rides. I apologize for my hot-headed response.
I look forward to many new members stepping up and posting rides. :)
Save the Ta-Ta's!
Greg
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Bobbi, don't be discouraged... If you need\want some routes there are lots on the forums here. I don't see any any reason that somebody can't organize any ride they want and include or exclude who they want.
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If a girls ride is wanted and organized, and all you need is someone with knowledge of the roads to guide you through. I'll volunteer, what better way to spend the day than with a bunch of woman who ride motorcycles............. (I'll even go ride some of the roads a couple times at the stops if you all want your "girl time", although I sure I would enjoy hanging around a bunch good looking women for the stops as much...lol)
My intro ride route and pace of last year would probably be a good fit !
I understand her concept and agree-so instead of saying something negative or derragatory about it, post nothing-if no one participates in a posters rides, sooner or later they will figure out they need a new approach.
You know when I posted up a rides, I got tired of peeps chimming in, so I don't post them any longer! So who is ultimately losing out ?
Good luck Bobbi !
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I support it too... have fun, girls! :)
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Let them girls ride, no point to be made here. Ride safe have fun.
MIKE DULUTH
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Wow, I didnt mean to start a controversy. I can admit it might have been a mistake to put "Revenge of the females" I got a little carried away, my bad. I want to have a woman's ride so We can get more women out there and comfortable with riding. My hope after this was to take many of these new female riders and get them on some of MSTA's rides. Ive only been riding for a couple of years and I only know maybe six female riders. Im not leading it because Ive never lead a ride and I dont want it to be a disaster. I found us a leader instead. Im hosting it because there has been talk of a girls ride for the past year but no one has DONE anything about it, so I stepped up, because I want one. I dont want to alienate the males of this forum The reason I joined this forum is because I really like you guys and really value the knowledge you guys have. I do have to say that for my experiences riding is a male place and I want to women to feel comfortable here too because gender doesn't/shouldn't mean your better at something. I mainly posted this ride up here because I know that most of the more experienced riders come here so I was hoping to integrate some of those people with the mass of new female riders I know will be going. I know I can't make everyone happy, but I will stand by this ride.
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Thank you guy for the support and the criticism. Even the negative comments can give some Ideas or let you know when someone doesn't like something, I might not be able to change it but at least I know your upset and can try to smooth thing out because I want to bridge the gap and i want to keep good relations going with the members of this forum. I am a newer rider so I will do my best to heed any good advice from any stand point. :)
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No worries kid, there are always people that read more into shit than is there. This is a forum after all, once you meet most of these people, they will be way different in person. All good people to ride with around here.
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I want to have a woman's ride so We can get more women out there and comfortable with riding.
Pretty hard to disagree with this goal. :)
Let us know how it goes.
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So, I have two ladies who are backpacks and I am looking for a couple of guys who might be willing to backpack them on this ride, I will take recommendations as well, I will give you guys each other's contact info so you guys can make sure your comfortable with each other. I will hopefully have a route before the end of the week. Once everything is finalized I will post it!! Cant wait for this!! riders should probably pm me if your ok with a backpack and want to go. Thanks!
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I could maybe give some one a ride if it isn't on one of our msta rides. They could ride on my CBR or my HD.
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I would do it, let me know
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ok thank you guys. :) I will finalize everything with Matt and hopefully have a route by the end of the week, and I will pm you guys the girls contact info so you guys can do what you need to do to make sure you guys will be well paired and feel safe.
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Hey quick question
Is this an open ride? I was hoping to toss on my gf as a "backpack" if possible :)
Jeff
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hehehe, well it kinda is. I originally wanted it as just a girls ride, but i have more backpacks than two up riders so I will allow guys to go as long as they backpack a lady who wants to go. if your girlfriend would like to go then we would love to have you both, It would be good to expose more women into the motorcycle community, plus you would get to go.. :) guess it just worked out that way. I guess this is going to be different from any other girls ride we've had, but I want everyone "females primarily" to go and meet other women in the field whether they ride or backpack.. so there an obnoxiously large answer to your question.. :)just make sure to let me know if you two do decide to go, were almost to the point where well need to have two groups and i want to make sure I know when to add more leaders and sweepers.
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When is this ride?
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were almost to the point where well need to have two groups and i want to make sure I know when to add more leaders and sweepers.
Impressive! It looks like you are meeting a need.
How many riders to you have at this point?
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well, 11 people have stated that they'll be there and 15 people stated that they might be there on facebook, then i have a couple people on another forum and possibly one or two people from this forum. I have the route now and will be posting the meeting place shortly. :) Im very excited.
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Very nice!
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Awesome Bobby! Nicely done on planning all of this! I can not wait!!! :)
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Alright everyone!!! I have updated the facebook event and well be meeting in Hastings at the Holiday gas station and the route is posted too!! We will be having two to three groups as we have at least 17 people who are going and 15 more maybe's!! I cant wait to meet everybody and Im pretty sure our backpacks have all been found riders, if this is incorrect, please PM me right away so we can get that taken care of. Until next time.........
Also, If anyone is interested I do need another sweeper and another person to be a leader in case we need a third or fourth group.. if anyone is interested please message me so I can keep you in the loop and you dont have to have a backpack if your willing to be a leader or sweeper. Thanks guys!!!!