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General Banter / Re: Alright Beeb, tell me what you think
« on: August 22, 2010, 09:36:50 PM »
I agree, I'd fight this one.

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Introductions / Re: new to this forum intro
« on: August 18, 2010, 11:46:39 AM »
Welcome Tom!  

*there's a ride on Sunday* ..... but you already know that.    ;)



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General Banter / Zero open rides?
« on: August 18, 2010, 06:51:00 AM »
Save for the Slimy Crud in October there are zero open rides posted for the rest of the season.  :-\


Step up folks.

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General Banter / Re: New York's Fastest?
« on: August 06, 2010, 08:42:03 PM »
10-4, I see your point. I didn't read your post all the way through so I missed where you mentioned that.   ::)



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General Banter / Re: New York's Fastest?
« on: August 06, 2010, 06:48:51 PM »
So I started thinking about this, how could we validate how fast this guy is going? I watched the video again, couldn't see mile markers on the freeway so no way to figure it out that way.

Then I noticed the light poles. Light poles on expressways are 300 feet apart typically. I also zoomed in on the Long Island Expressway in Google earth and found several light poles in the median and measured the distance between them with the tools in google earth, it also came up to 300 feet.

I watched the video until he was doing 186 consistently and started timing from one pole to the other, it pretty much came out to 2 seconds each time. So lets do the math:
300 ft every 2 seconds is (300X(60/2))=9000 feet per minute. There are 5280 feet in a mile so:
9000/5280=1.705 miles per minute, so to get mph take 1.705 times 60 minutes in an hour
1.705x60=102.27 mph

186kph=115.58 mph
At max speed there is typically a 10% error in sport bike speedometers to the high side

115.58 mph - 10%=104.22 mph and my calculations show 102.27mph, pretty close.

Now my timer did not do tenths of a second, so I'm off a little, but I think I have proven that the bike is reading in kph and not mph. I think these guys did some creative video editing on the GPS to superimpose mph instead of kph and the video at speed is so blurry that he might show mph on the speedo when stopped, but they cut and splice many times throughout the video that they could easily change the speedo to the other setting. At speed, its too blurry to tell whether the indicator is kph or mph. The S1000RR picks up the speed from the ABS sensors, so changing sprockets would not affect the speed readout, only changing the rear tire size would do that.

As someone who *once* did close to 186, I'd have to vote that this IS mph, not kph.

As someone who *has been known to on more than one occasion* go 104.22, I can tell you it sure looks to me to be faster than 104. Either way I agree, they're attention whores.

PS. Also note they're going ~40 on the entrance ramp curves. If it where kph then they'd be going 24mph, and it looks to me like they're going faster than that, IMO.

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General Banter / Re: 2010 IOM TT Vid
« on: August 05, 2010, 11:06:41 AM »
Men and machines becoming one. Beautiful footage, thanks Tim.




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General Banter / Re: Ozark's
« on: August 04, 2010, 03:26:19 PM »
So, Next month, Josh, Ken, Grant (not on the forum) are all going to Arkansas for 4 days of riding, Does anybody have any old route sheets or roads that are must hit?

I don't have any route sheets to share, but here are some must ride roads.

* Ride Hwy 14 all the way between Omaha (Ar) and Mountain View. This is my 2nd favorite road.
* From Hwy 14 ride Hwy 341 (near Big Flat)  12 miles north, turn around and ride it back (it straightens out after the 12 mile mark)
* Ride Hwy 16 all the way from Clinton to St. Paul. This is my favorite road, even better than 341. Hardly any traffic but be advised that it goes through a national forest and you will run into some logging trucks from time to time. Also keep in mind that if you go down in some of the more desolate areas, it will be 30 minutes or more before EMT's reach you.
* Hwy 23 from Eureka Springs to Ozark
* Hwy 21 from Berryville to Clarksville
* Hwy 123 from Western Grove to Clarksville. I highly recommend you ride this road from north to south the first time you run it. There are some STEEP switchbacks just south of Mt. Judia.
* Hwy 27 from Harriet to Russellville
* Hwy 7 from Harrison to Russelville
* Hwy 263 from Big Flat to Hwy 92.


You will never enjoy Wisconsin and Minnesota roads as much after you have ridden the Ozarks. The best (IMO) pure sportbikes roads in America. The Rockies and Appalachians have better vistas, but more LEO and car traffic.

mmmmm, my palms are sweating.  :headbang:


Greg

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General Banter / Re: I need a new bike! Which One?
« on: July 29, 2010, 12:50:44 PM »
If you like eccentric bikes, the new Honda VFR sure is a looker.



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General Banter / Re: Fuel Management
« on: July 28, 2010, 11:26:03 PM »
This is turning into a good discussion.  Tony, you need to rant more often.

I have two pennies, that's all, honest.  Here goes my two pennies:

Ray probably nailed my sentiment the best.  But I have a more opinionated view that some of you guys are way too fixated on mileage and schedules.  Doing so will doom you to constantly feel disappointed or let down because you *failed* the ride because you don't allow time for unforeseen events (like Roger running out of gas three miles out of Nelson.)

Stuff happens.  It might be shortsighted for a rider to forget to top off but it happens.  So do get-offs, missed routes, lost routes, encounters with LEOs, breakdowns, etc. If your ride is 400 miles and requires no time to chat at gas stops, then you shouldn't ride with people. I ride alone when I feel like ramming a 500 miler in 10 hours because I know that stopping to fuel while straddling the bike and eating a gas stop hot dog in 10 minutes isn't going to be popular with a group .  But I never go into a route thinking I have to finish it by X oclock, or even finish the whole route for that matter.

The reason some of us routed a different route at Twistar was so we could get some pictures at the New Glarus Brewery, ride the 5 mile Dugway road and other assorted odd landmarks. We still rode plenty of twisties over a 300 mile route and still had plenty of time to smell the flowers too.  It's really no fun to have to adhere to a strict route plan that requires synchronized watches and no chat time.

Which brings me to my last point, so I won't lose Lloyd's short memory span, some of the best rides I have been on over the 12 years in the HSTA/MSTA were not the fast, technical curve oriented rides.  In the old days there were Gunflint Trail rides, Kite Flying rides, Church Steeple rides, etc that combined distances, all sorts of road textures, road orientations (curvy and straight) and plenty of social time.  One of the memorable rides had us changing the route plan because VF-Jay wanted to pick some Watercress down in the Whitewater River Valley.  I never heard of it, learned alot about it that day.

I'm not sure where the need to ride curvy roads at speed all day started.  I know there is a need to ride that sportbike hard I guess.  They had sportbikes in the past too, yet the routes were setup for mainly corny fun I guess.




Kite Flying and corny fun rides have their place. Post up a Kite Flying ride and knock yourself out. I promise I won't post up afterward telling you your way stinks.

my .02    :)


PS. This exchange is exactly what is described in the MSTA article this month. Apparently I'm not along in this thinking.

PSS. The people who's opinion I care about read my pre-edited points. I've edited out the filler to lessen the drama.

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General Banter / Re: Fuel Management
« on: July 28, 2010, 03:14:30 PM »
Just to drag this thread out longer than it needs to be:  

What takes time is the chat sessions during gas stops. In my perfect word, assuming I was dictator, gas stops would be only long enough to fill up on fluids and empty fluids.  :P    Let's chat at lunch.

I personally get in a psychological state of mind (a riding "groove" if you will) that get's broken with a 30 minute gas stop. Although I enjoy everyone's company, I'm with ya' to ride!   8)


Dictator G



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General Banter / Re: Fuel Management
« on: July 28, 2010, 02:52:45 PM »
The "other" unscheduled fuel stop only took 2.3 gallons to fill, so I am pretty sure that bike could have easily made it the 27 miles to Pepin without that stop, fuel light on or not.

according to OEM specs it holds 4.1 gallons.

But yep, waiting and having to make unscheduled stops puts a serious damper on the fun factor.

Come on folks, let's not single out riders.

 How about we just say, "Show up for rides with a full tank" and leave it at that.

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General Banter / Re: Ozark's
« on: July 23, 2010, 12:31:49 PM »


Others have mentioned the smooth, clean road conditions and relaxed law enforcement. I'll just say a few words about the roads. You can ride
twisties all day without going on more than 5-6 roads.  You don't need a two page routesheet in AR.  


Bottom Line. If you have not been there go. If you have been there go again. It is that good!

This is an excellent point, Tony. You can ride all day on a few roads. 



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General Banter / Route Sheets
« on: July 23, 2010, 09:42:34 AM »
As someone who has put together route sheets, I appreciate the time and effort involved. This post is not a shot at any one style in particular, just a suggestion in how we move forward on "official" MSTA rides.

IMO it would benefit the group if we agreed on one style of route sheet and stuck to that format. When a rider is glancing down at their route sheet (yikes, some could argue that's too dangerous as it is),  it is imperative that the information is absorbed quickly and accurately.


Thoughts?


Greg

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General Banter / Re: Ozark's
« on: July 22, 2010, 11:31:48 AM »
Been there a dozen times. I concur with everything Roger & Denyse said.  :headbang:

1st - did you trailer down there or ride? Trailer
2nd - what time of year? May and September
3rd - where did you stay? Harrison, Mountain Home &  Eureka Springs (my favorite is Harrison)
4th - is there anything you would change? Nope, it's sportbike nirvana. Little traffic, lax LEO, zero gravel shoulders (clean corners!) cars that (almost without fail) pull over for you so you can zip by. How often does THAT happen in Minnesota or Wisconsin?
5th - would you go again? Yepper, going again this September


PM sent.  

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General Banter / Re: DEER!
« on: July 19, 2010, 07:55:32 PM »

I have one simple goal, to scrub as much speed as possible.  I would rather hit the deer with my brakes on than take my chances and see if I could somehow cut my way through the critter.  My end goal is to survive and if I go down after contact so be it. 

This is how I would handle it as well. Brakes, brakes, brakes ..... launch over the handlebars (lol) and hopefully survive.

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