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Bike Help / OEM parts
« on: August 28, 2019, 08:58:28 PM »
 So I get this Triumph Daytona 675 in for chain and sprockets and an oil change. he is a first time ever rider, first bike purchase ever, first time riding a motorcycle ever was this bike the day he bought it (where was someone with knowledge and brains to help guide this guy through his purchasing decisions....)- he put maybe 50 miles on it before it arrived here

I take it for a test ride when done and it works fine...

a week later customer comes pays bill and picks it up, he gets about a block away and the bike just dies. He pushes it back (downhill so not much of a push really) and complains "why didn't you fix this? I told you it died sometimes."

What can I really say...nothing on the work order about it, it worked fine for me when I started it a couple times and rode it once....

Anyways I look at it, it is clear it has zero fuel pressure and the exhaust servo is so damn loud and constantly moving you can't hear anything but that broken piece o shit........ But I am sure the pump is not even pumping (it obviously did when I rode it and when he started it and rode that block)

So we go to lift up the tank to take a peek

nope...... someone clocked the fuel pump wrong and the fuel line is kinked and tucked solidly under the airbox, but I can see some fantastical wiring now that a few things are off the bike (sarcasm.....some idgit previous owner destroyed the entire bike really)

anyways we are determined to get the tank off, all bolls out and trying to move it up and back, just back and tilt whatever- we can never get enough room under it to get even fingers in there to pinch the release buttons and pull off the fuel line and can't even touch to two electrical plug ins.......He finally lifts/tilts hard enough the plastic fuel feed of the pump simply snaps off
hello $700+ fuel pump.......

Well now we can see the electrical connectors are just bare wires shoved in on two of the connectors and the "oe" female square blade connector just falls out of the oe plastic female end on the other two (all these were just dangling now that the tank was up about 6")......... no wonder it has electrical and fuel pump issues

Anyways........... hours of searching, and about 100 miles of driving around to the places everyone said would have them locally- and they did not, nothing even close.... and I finally find on the internets two places that have these oe specific fuel pump connectors (japan and great britian)
 Japan gives no delivery date estimate and great Britain says the 30th....... minimum order needed so I order and get several to meet the minimum order... blah blah blah

fast forward about 8 hours later, I am closing down the 40+ windows I had opened hunting for these and one of the windows shows these in stock in new jersey at some other mom and pop motorcycle specific electrical connector place....wtf- how did I not see those earlier???
anyways, figuring they will surely get here faster and thus get this bike out of here sooner....... I order the same pieces from them too, they say in stock and "within 24 hours of order placement they will ship"

So I fully expect these to get here pretty quickly, I thought by the end of last week since that was only last Monday evening

So guess whose shipment got here first, today............... yes, Great Britian to Minnesota is faster than Jersey to MN aparently (yeah I know it is the personell problem, not an actual shipping problem)

I think it is pathetically funny really......because two years ago I needed a camshaft (only one in the world was overseas) and rocker arms for a GPZ1100, and those rocker arms were in CA and ............ the camshaft got here a week before the rocker arms did (all new oem parts ordered through oem dealers) go figure..........

Anyways, so when I did pull out the old fuel pump......... tank was full with over atleast a cooffee cup of water (the drain tube through the tank from under the cap- was rusted through, everytime it rains or gets washed water around the cap is going straight into the fuel...........ugh

I did get that rusty plugged up line cleared through and a rubber fuel line spliced over it inside the tank (after cutting the solid piece and removing about 6" of rusty crusty holy waste), we'll see if that does any good? I am suggesting he never let the bike sit in the rain or wash the fuel tank with water

So connectors on, fresh fuel, new fuel pump and it starts right up...woohoo, guess what I did find though...
no charging system and a battery that only had 11.9v (surprised that was enough to start it really)

Now in it for well over $1200.00 on top of the $2000 he paid for it a few weeks before bring it in, I guess he feels he is trapped and needs to fix the rest of the shitty bike....... man for the about 4k he is going to have in it before he can even ride it legally and reliably (it'll still be ugly and roached)..... he could have had something so much nicer than this crashed and rashed former trackday bike with no taillight nor brake light, no signals, missing bodywork, torn seat, butchered wiring harness and generally piece of shit bike.........

  I have a yellow mintish 09 R1 he could have had for only a few hundred more and it would have given him no issues and it has new tires, and so much more....and it is clean and pretty with the same miles (but...liter bike, they don't wear out unless you beat the shit out of them and don't take care of them)

oh so I went back at looked at his text messages.....yep when he first wrote he did mention the bike died on his way home from picking it up and didn't know if it was an issue, he towed it home but it started the next day (plus he rode it here to get the work without issue)
but a month later and here in person he wrote nothing about it on the drop off form and didn't say anything.........apparently I am now expected to remember every conversation and every detail and protect the dumbs from themselves ......... NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN

There is todays story.....making small talk in the bike help board.....because this bike needed tons of help- and we need some small talk happening on the forum.........

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I of course could have changed some numbers and wording and made the story fit me personally and posted that......but I do think it is a good read, albeit a little wordy and at times off kilter............  and people can insert their own "stats" to fit their personal storyline........

and yes I see his mathematical errors........ at over 1.3million miles if one averaged 50mph it is only 26,000 hours of seat time-- but that is a whole shit ton of seat time and experience
 but it still pales in comparison if you were to say........ work 40hrs a week 2080 hrs a year for 50 years of your life at the same job, doing the same thing..... that is 104,000 hours working...............

anyways here is his post..........



Everyone here, has heard me say this in various forms for as long as I have been a member of this forum.

It occurred to me, that this is a cornerstone of my professional life...... And that my career is almost completely based on the lack of fundamental knowledge required for a successful conclusion of some facet of a process. Yet my professional recommendation is inevitably to engineer out that need for knowledge..... To make it 'sailor proof'. That dichotomy disturbs me. I can see the inevitable conclusion of this process.

I ride motorcycles, because it is an affirmation that I can accomplish a difficult, challenging, dangerous, high stake, life threatening adventure. By and large (>99%) the sole responsibility for the outcome is in my hands. I have a low probability of causing significant harm to others, during the pursuit of my passion. In the near 200,000 street riding miles I have accumulated, I have injured one other person through my actions. If I assume 50 mph for my average speed, it's reasonable to state I am approaching 40,000 riding hours.

40K hours. I have been physically struck by one car..... In stop and go traffic, 30 years ago.

Every other event leading to damage to me, my bike, or property not my own has been the result of a decision I made. Each crash, near miss, accident, ticket, enraged driver...... Wake up calls. Sometimes I listened, more often a specific behavior would be repeated, until it bit me.

I am quite certain that I would not be riding today, without the active participation of my wife. I wouldn't have it any other way.

I'd be dead.

Each crash, I end up with better gear.  Each crash, a thorough review of technique, material condition of the bike, physical condition and mental state of the operator, and the scenario occurs. Additional training is often a gating requirement for continued participation.....

Train the operator

The physics are harsh. Reality does not embrace foolish behavior. Lack of knowledge is no excuse. The physics don't care.

Impact speed which assures a fatal outcome is low. It's the sudden stop that does it. Glancing blows don't impart the full change in velocity. A crash at 60 mph into a grassy field, or gravel trap has completely different consequences than hitting a tree.

Jumping out of a second story window, gravity will accelerate anything to about 25 mph. Drunk college students die every year this way. Many more don't; I'm sure most falls at parties aren't reported. It's the ones that hit concrete, we hear about. Belly flops, headers, etc.

Paratroopers tuck and roll, to change that impact energy into a glancing blow. A significant number of serious injuries occur when the terrain is bad, because gravity and physics don't care. Training is paramount, but doesn't cover the random variations which are a certainty.

Proper gear helps. Not a panacea. Training, helps...... Controlling the situation, helps.

In a perfect world, a rider in shorts and flip flops is perfectly safe.

I don't recommend it.

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For Sale/Wanted to Buy / 2009 Yamaha R1
« on: June 22, 2019, 12:47:16 PM »
1 owner bought new in fall of 2010, clean title ready to go
Well maintained with records and receipts also with a clean bikefax report

Recent services this spring;
battery, oil/filter, brake fluid flush, tires and super cleaned up for eye popping show room new look

4500 mile on new oem chain and sprockets


$4600 is a damn good deal for this super clean one owner bike with 30,000 miles ! Hell craigslist and dealerships all over are still asking upwards of 6-8k for the same bike

 Bike is @ Lloyd's in Apple Valley as owner is in WI and has had trouble getting people to come out to look at it

Bike fax report
service records
clean 1 owner title to the new owner.....

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General Banter / In reply to; Random Bytes thread.....
« on: June 17, 2019, 03:35:23 PM »
In reply to Gregs locked thread here........... http://mn-msta.com/index.php/topic,2070.msg20257.html#new

"Hello Fellow Riders. I thought I’d drop in, say hello and broach a few topics.

On a person note, I’m going to mention this. As I discussed in this thread, http://mn-msta.com/index.php/topic,1960.0.html, I fulfilled my promise (mostly) last year with 3 open forum rides, and one large private ride. If others don’t step up and post a ride, this forum is effective dead regarding group rides. Organizing a ride takes a lot of work and it does open you up for slings and arrows thrown by those in the peanut gallery that never post rides. A few of the complaints will be deserved, most will not. 

Ray and I have organized more open forum rides, via this group and the 3 other dominant groups over the last 17 years, than any other person. Others have posted rides, some more than others, but none more than Ray and I. This isn’t boasting (lol, believe me!), just stating fact. These opinions I’m about to write about are worth what you paid to read them.  Zip, nada, the big goose egg. :)

The national MSTA FB group had a recent post that caught my attention. The fellow mentioned that we are a very diverse group of people, sometimes with nothing else in common other than our shared love of motorcycles / motorcycling. And even with my previous sentence, you see some of these differences. Some of us love the motorcycle more, and some love motorcycling more. (Neither is better than the other, just different).

That fact that we are a VERY diverse group of people in our personality makeup, in addition to our differences in what constitutes a “group ride”, mandates that what makes a “group ride” effective is INFORMATION. 
If a person were to post on a skiing forum, “Hey, let’s get together and go skiing”, most would show up at the resort, and then splinter off into subgroups. The black diamond skiers, the blue square and green circle (expert, average, and beginner) skiers will rarely ski together. This is an example of why I feel it’s important to lay out what exactly your posted ride is going to be.

These examples are presented only to show the vast differences of rides and I’m not applying worth to any of them over the other.
1.   Iron butt ride! Let’s get out and do a 1000 mile day!
2.   Twisties all day: Let’s get out and do 75 miles legs, few short gas stops, one hour lunch. Speeds reasonable in the straights, “do your own thing” in the corners
3.   Flying kites! Let’s get out, listen to some Peter, Paul and Mary, smell some flowers and enjoy the day.
4.   Kickstands and kicking tires: Let’s get together for lunch on our motorcycles and swap riding stories.

Just as a beginner skier doesn’t want to ski the mogul hill and the black diamond skier doesn’t want to ski bunny slopes, riders of different tastes as described above will not want to ride the other styles of rides. (AGAIN, I’m not assigning worth to these styles)
Given all of us have various commitments outside riding, the days we DO get off to ride should be as we hoped them to be. Hence: Information.

I’ve learned 2 important things from RR and RK (abbreviations to protect the guilty, but you know who these folks are) regarding group riding over the past 17 years. The importance of stressing the “ride your own ride” philosophy as well as the fact that people like to ride WITH others. BOTH can be accomplished via the methods I laid out above. "

and his comments here;

"Other than organizing the Tri-State Boogie" later this year, I'm done hosting group rides. I will reach out to friends and host closed rides. Please feel free to reach out to me as well.
Cheers!"

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Seeings how I put up a post but it was deleted twice and then thread was locked.......... previously deleted post quoted here.....


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"5 people stated they would organize and lead atleast 1 ride this year, thus far only 2 have stepped up and actually done it. One of those people has done 4[/i]

http://mn-msta.com/index.php/topic,2024.0.html


It is early yet, so I still have some hope

As far as that whole 'ride your own ride' thing.............. I far more believe in ride the leaders ride, he dictates the pace and the rules and when to stop, where to stop, how long to stop
 They are the leader for a reason!

But you or anyone else who decides to organize and lead can set their own standard and rules for the group"

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Just in case the other disappears, you can see the context of my reply

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https://wcautobahn.com/


So apparently this is back up on the table again after being defeated soundly by the county commision a few years back when it included a motocross track etc ( nothing in the link says anyting about motorcycles being allowed, and the video with trees right up to the edge of the track is all bullshit- no insurance company would insure without tons of runoff room, so that animated bullshit is BS propoganda to sway the stupid into thinking "green spaces" and little disruption to the mini woods already on site)

Mustang club is all abuzz of its potential, but that price tag for membership.......woah

7K for a social membership where basically you can come into the grounds and may never get on track or at best, very limited get on track???
60k initiation and 8k annually for even the lowest of lowly membershsip packages so you know you will get to drive and you can even bring 5 of your closest friends every month to drive with you, woohoo........ a bargain if you have that disposable income I suppose

 I do not believe any of those neighbors will have changed their mind (same location and the land is still owned by that farmer) so the residents that live 1/2 mile to 2 miles away will ,likely will still scream and holler about too much noise and get it shut down?
 Last hearing on the other configuration 36 people (neighbors) showed up and bitched at the public meeting to the board of the county and they had over 100 other "neighbors" sign some petition of fighting against it...and they succeeded
  I doubt their will to fight will be extinquished even if the place is multi million dollar investment and brings people to the deep south metro..........nothing around to make monies and support this place for what 8 miles to Faribault.... (so that would mean more farm land turns industrial with resturants, hotels, fuel stations and more??? - so even more traffic and noise locally there, if they truly want it to be some destination overnight stay type place and events (sure they mention suites and garages and likely would have some sort of dining.......all at inflated ego pricing too I am sure)

 I am 3 miles as the crow flies from DCTC and I can hear everytime motorcycles are running there, or cars with loud exhaust systems.........
So I would absolutely hate to be only 1/2 mile or 1 mile away anytime I wanted the windows open and some fresh air or to sit on the deck or patio and enjoy my peace and tranquility (so I understand thier point)

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Routes / Prescott to Prescott in 309 miles
« on: May 25, 2019, 02:52:52 PM »
Attached is the route

This is 5/26/19 route led by lloyd

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General Banter / Economics.....
« on: March 20, 2019, 07:02:32 PM »
So you need new tires;
 You have ridden your bike some 66,000 miles and been through your fair share of tires (you should know what you like and what you don't and what different mileages you got out of them)

You have run Michelin PR2 and PR3 and liked them and claim to have gotten about 10,000 miles out of each set (before I worked on the bike ever, so I cannot verify)
I know you ran the Roadtec 01's and got 7600 miles
I know you ran a set of T30GT's and got 5400 miles
I know you have run the Dunlop RSIII and gotten 9100 miles (the set coming off right now)

other than mileage you haven't noticed any difference between any of them

So choices seem to be;
PR4's @ $358/set zero rebates.................net $358............................................. 3.58 cents per mile (if these even make it to 10k like you say your other pilot roads did)
T31's @ $265/set with $60 rebate.............net $205............................................ 3.79 cents per mile (if same as T30)
RSIII @ $235/set with $60 rebate.............net $175............................................ 1.92 cents per mile if same mileage as setcoming off

 Why pay twice as much to get PR4's that may or may not last any longer than the RSIII's at half the price????????? (best case scenario seems to indicate you may be able to eek out 1000 extra miles for that addiitonal $178 of up front expense, hell you could buy a second set of the RSIII for that!!!!!!)


 Waste you monies however you want, but the smart money....buy the RSIII's! ( get twice the mileage for the same monies ~ essentially~)

Busa showing up....... wants a stretched swingarm installed, new chain and sprockets and new tires...... oh and has never had a tune up etc......... We'll see what he says on budget- but if it is sub $1k I would be surprised

anyways........... Just one of the many things I have to deal with every day when it comes to customers....
 Far too many listen to facebook or some forum of anonymous souls with zero vested interest and even less educated knowledge......... but the dumbs still listen to them and worse still solicit their advice...........
Too many dumbs in the world...

 I had to correct the decimal point error in this post after doing the math below.......... So Q4 rear alone will cost more than twice per mile what any of these would^ as a complete set

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Off Topic / Monday morning funnies...
« on: January 14, 2019, 04:51:59 AM »
Monday morning funnies.................

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Safety and Riding Tips / Observations....
« on: August 21, 2018, 11:54:47 PM »
So today I pulled out the Mustang,  I was waiting on parts to arrive so instead of taking the truck I went out in the Mustang and decided I would high tail it over to Hastings to pay my insurance policies......... plus stretch its legs a bit, it has been sorely neglected in the being driven department

So I turn off 42 onto 42 (55 goes straight into town, 42 puts you down under the 61 bridge next to the river... "old downtown")

So as I pass the 2nd curve and get along to the "long" downhill section........ a couple small rolling hills but mostly downhill before you get to town and the hospital etc....

I see a pick up truck (duelly) pulling a trailer and even from as far away as I was I could see it was on/over the centerline, knowing the timing was about going to have us meet past the crest of the next rise I was slowing and had the right wheels pretty much picking up gravel as I was that close to the edge....
 As I crest the hill the guy is coming towards me taking up about half my lane now- I've got my high beams on, I am on the horn and still doing about 30, but off the gas.......Idgit doesn't move
 The slope of the ditch is steep, steep enough if I went full in- I likely would not drive back out....  Mustang has sub 4" of ground clearance and fat tires...... not looking forward to that scenario and then there is that whole......what is hiding in that foot tall grass?

 Well he never did move, so at around 15mph I end up driving 3/4 of the car deep into the grass with only the left 2 wheels on pavement as we pass (and by on the pavement, I think it was only about 1/2 the tires actually on the pavement and half in the gravel shoulder- so car is steeply leaned over to the right), guy is looking right at me as we pass and he still didn't swerve back into his lane, if anything he continued to drift further into my lane, I swear he was taking almost the entire lane now.........FYI mowing grass with the splitter and having the gravel shoulder get abused by the undercarriage is not a sound you really want to hear, ever.....

 So as I pull back up onto the road surface with all 4 wheels and travel about 300 yards to the first driveway I came to, I had thought about whipping a U-ee and running him down, but I had the dash camera running and have his plates....... No need to go confront the idiot jackweed retard, because best case scenario;
  he acknowledges he is an idgit and continues to be one the rest of his life and nothing changes
 Worst case sceanrio someone gets hurt, which means lengthy time dealing with all those legalities....
 (So as I look over the car, grass stains all over the front, grass clumps hanging down under the car and grass and seeds packed in tight to the brake ducts and in between the splitter and bumper and there is some what looks like hard scrape marks all over the aero pan. Hell there was grass hangin down from both rear shock bottoms and the sway bars and I could see the differential was digging gravel)

Anyways- I went and paid for my insurances, and then headed over to the local popo
they knew who the guy was by name as soon as I showed them the video, they now have my memory card and hopefully they exact some justice- idgits like this retard should lose their license and be sent to jail for lengthy stays! (maybe a judge should also access some punitive damages for the 3+ hours I spent cleaning my car......!!! Plus the cost of a new memory card)

 I get home and in order to remove the couple pounds of grass and weed seeds out of the splitter and brake ducts, stuck in the entire undercarriage,  clean out both radiators and even found seeds all over in the air box (cold air intake is in the nose) and under the rear of the hood over the cabin air filter area...... I end up having to pull off the splitter and aero pan, ducts and even the lower intake grill, and to do it all really requires up on a lift...... fun fun when at home with a jack and jackstands

 Oh people are wonderfully stupid and idiotic when driving sometimes and we have all encountered them on occassion........ This time I was able to get away with only having to waste a few hours cleaning the car.......next time it may be different



 Even seeing, observing and acting is not always enough......... Sometimes the actions needed are not the actions chosen

Stay aware and make sure you are always paying attention!!!



~What could I have done differently......... ?? I had about 8 seconds (according to dash cam) from first seeing him til we physically passed each other.....
My car can come to a complete stop in sub 8 seconds from 60ish easily, hell it can do it in sub 4 seconds on dry roads.....

-Should I have jumped all over the brakes and stopped short of ever getting to the hill?, then what? Still a steep ditch on both sides... Am I supposed to sit and wait at that point and hope he doesn't hit me? get out of the car and run?........... I did see there was a driveway/road just short of where I actively was slowing (could have jumped on the brakes and turned off I suppose.....but who thinks some idgit is going to continue on in your lane indefinitely???)- or possibly stopped and had to back into that driveway quickly???

-Should I have floored it and gotten over the hill crest sooner, would have given the idgit retard another couple seconds of staring at high beams to move??? if he was even looking up (probably wasn't)
 I still could have jumped all over the brakes and gotten to sub 20 and driven it into the ditch if need be (likely would have been about the same outcome IMO), but who can predict if the ditch over the hill is the same as before the hill? Where debris is or which is the "safer" choice
I didn't know- I was just thankful the sign post was further ahead than I needed to use and the field access driveway was beyond that, still sucked to have to go into the ditch at all

The bottom of the ditch is about 5' below the road and pretty steep actually....... I was on the gas and the rear of the car was definitely in the ditch as I pulled out, pretty much high centering cresting over the gravel edge


There is todays horror story of stupid idgits encountered......

Stay alert and stay alive...


 Someone who shall not remain annonymous rode with idgits Sunday and two of them ended up out in the bean field off A..... You know heading south that first decreasing radius right hander that is 95% of the time littered with gravel/sand
Maybe he will post about his encounter.......

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Safety and Riding Tips / making small talk
« on: August 12, 2018, 12:45:28 AM »
gee I made the mistake of actually looking at my service records over the past ~65,000 miles.......... specifically looking at Tire mileage and useage... (since new tires etc were done in prep for this weekend riding and I had the log book open)


~Sportbike tires do not last very long~


~So 45 brand new tires, and then a few of them came off and went back on later (track use etc but only counted as 1 tire)
 6 of those were tires burned up doing trackday events. (usually, tires used on track also saw 1100-1400 street miles afterwards on the Q3's...)The GPA's set, an S20evo set and the 003R's set never saw anything but track (each lasting sub 650 miles) and then a set of  S20's (non evo) I rode at VIR for CSS and then in the east coast mountains for 1000 miles combined (400ish VIR, 600ish in the mountains) only managed 479 miles once returned, 1 ride into WI .... 1479 miles total)

~2 rear tires made less than 1300 miles each in AR ( Conti Force Max and Dunlop D208GPA)

******the longest any rear tire managed -- 4,428 miles (Metzeler M3)---if we do not count the Roadtec 01 sport touring model---

the shortest any that did not see track use--- 1188 miles, but that was riding AR on a DOT "race tire"

2 rear tires were pulled early due to nails in them and tossed. 859 mile M7RR and 348 mile PP2ct

~The average life of a rear tire strictly ridden in WI seems to be around  3,159 miles (again slower speeds and being on its side more helped longevity)
 ~The average for rear tires that saw extensive MN riding and some WI riding 2,803 miles

fronts did not fair much better....

*******longest any front was left on-------- 4,747 miles (Dunlop Q3) again we are not including the outlyer sport touring Roadtec 01 that had a clear advantage

the shortest of those never seeing track duty--- 1188 miles in AR, again a DOT "race tire" ---

 The average of the fronts (since some I did change seperately) that solely saw WI seems to be  3940 miles (being on the side and slower speeds helps life)
never did I ride a front predominatley in MN and keep it on when changing the rear......So 2803 miles when mostly in MN

Basically;
longest life
Roadtec 01..........averaged  7108 (1 lone set, and I actually enjoyed them very much the same as all the sport tires)
M3........................averaged  3770 (4 sets on street- 1 set did see 118 miles dctc)
Q3.........................averaged 3608 (3 sets on street-did not count any track mile tires)
S21.......................averaged 3540 (only ran the 1 set)
PP.........................averaged 3326 (2 sets on street)
M5........................averaged 2985 (3 sets on street, 1 did see 129 miles DCTC)
S20.......................averaged 2756 (2 sets on street)
Q3+...................... averaged 2667 miles
S20evo.................averaged 2420 (only 1 set on street)

I guess I may as well go back to the beginning and see the other 24 tires burned up and really see how they averaged......
be some new contenders in that list;
-Dunlop Roadsmart  (1300 miles and off, hated them, way too hard and stiff on a 400 lb sportbike)
-Dunlop Roadsmart II (2080 miles and off- actually cupping front and did not like them much-thought they were too hard and stiff for a 400lb sportbike, but they were marginally better than RS)
-PP2ct (2910 miles out of 1 set and 3040 out of the 2nd)
-Conti sport attack (2873 miles)
-Conti sport attack/road attack rear combo (3378 miles)
-Dunlop Q2 (4591 miles and 4673 miles.... way more than the Q3 which is also much better mileage than the Q3+)
-also a few more sets of M3 were run throughout.... with some going 4900 miles and others only 3800 miles.... If I look all M3 sets over the life of the bike, they have averaged 4064 miles per set.... " winner "of the sportbike tire longevity war but those Q2's beat them for life, although they were not around long and I only used 2 sets of them
-Michelin power pure......... sub 2000 miles
-oe original D207 managed 4700 miles even with a few dyno sessions

Obviously the M3 was my go to tire and I did notice when the 120/65 was used my comments were better to how it felt/reacted and lived.... but then again about the time I went Ak20's/penske shock I also went 120/70 from then on and made chassis adjustments to suit the tire size....

Here is to the next ~95,000 miles of riding.............
may I burn through another ~70 tires and enjoy every mile..........

 Skew the average down with more track time or skew it up with more Roadtec 01's/sport touring tires
The RSIII is on my short list but given the way I hated the RS and RSII thus far I just haven't taken the leap to go for them....(although I have dozens of happy customers on them.....I am also using AS as a guinea pig for testing them on a 400 lb sportbike, so far so good)

besides with so many new sport tires coming out all the time and I need to test them, I do ride a sportbike afterall.... Hard to jump on testing tires not really designed for my bike or my intended use (just these Sunday rides of fun tire shredding enjoyment)

So what does this have to do with "Safety" and "Riding Tips".......
Well the tires are your lifeline to everything the motorcycle does, it is your connection to the road so make sure you take care of them!

besides air pressure, balance and making sure they are not too old (production date is 4 digits 2318 is 23rd week of 2018) and have plenty of good tread (buy a tread depth guage and actually measure above the wear bars!!!)..........

 Well that is the safety and riding lecture.......... the rest is just fluff to spark some conversation on the forum

Do not be one of these guys like the depicted pictures.......senseless stupidity in spades to ride any of these tires!
Victory with a completely bald front tire
600cc sportbike with cords showing
old 70's honda with tires circa 1980's and well weather cracked

all ridden in this way......ugh


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