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Title: My First New Bike
Post by: Ray916MN on February 08, 2011, 05:42:37 PM
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Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Jared on February 08, 2011, 09:36:46 PM
Congrats Ray!  First new as in first new of the year or first new as in 0 miles? :)
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Ray916MN on February 09, 2011, 12:27:37 AM
Congrats Ray!  First new as in first new of the year or first new as in 0 miles? :)

First as in 0 miles. I've always bought used bikes and cars before. I'm pretty cheap.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Joel S on February 09, 2011, 04:57:30 AM
man that looks nice. !!!
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Mike Duluth on February 09, 2011, 06:59:06 AM
Cool
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Elk on February 09, 2011, 09:05:52 AM
Wow!  Very cool!

These are amazing bikes.  I can't wait to hear what you think of it.

Did you happen to notice that the left hand switch gear is the same as the Ducati's, but with a little different silk screening?  Kawasaki apparently saw the Ducati part, liked it, and went to the supplier "Make us a bunch just like this but with a different label."

Nice luggage, too.  Very handy.

Where did you buy it?  Decent deal?
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: flyinlow on February 09, 2011, 09:08:38 AM
I think they should have brought back the GPZ name for this bike, it's more appropriate. Very nice bike, I have a friend who is thinking of replacing his 95 GPZ 1100 with this bike.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Aprilian on February 09, 2011, 04:15:32 PM
Replacement or addition?  (I'm guessing addition :-)   )
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Ray916MN on February 09, 2011, 04:55:55 PM
Did you happen to notice that the left hand switch gear is the same as the Ducati's, but with a little different silk screening?  Kawasaki apparently saw the Ducati part, liked it, and went to the supplier "Make us a bunch just like this but with a different label."

Nice luggage, too.  Very handy.

Where did you buy it?  Decent deal?

Didn't notice the switchgear commonality. Probably reduces Ducati's parts cost significantly.

Bought it at Moon, largely because of the deal (~20% discount). I'm guessing the bike market is going to come back this year and these are going to be tough to get later in the season.

I think they should have brought back the GPZ name for this bike, it's more appropriate. Very nice bike, I have a friend who is thinking of replacing his 95 GPZ 1100 with this bike.

GPZ name would have made more sense to me too. I think the naming was intended to get more youth sales as that is the growth segment of the market. Get young guys. They can still say they ride a Ninja 1000, but at a much more affordable price and insurance rate than a ZX10R.

Replacement or addition?  (I'm guessing addition :-)   )

This is going to displace the 900SS. I'm out of garage space and since I bought a dual sport last fall and expect that this bike is going to open up a bunch of midwest rides I've never done, like Sturgis and a ride around the Great Lakes so I think I'm out of riding time too.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Deplorable, thank you! on February 09, 2011, 10:50:44 PM
 So did you get the bags? Is this the color scheme you got?

I really like this bike, it has the makings of being an excellent sport touring bike and it is very comfortable to sit on and ride. Then of course it is a Kawasaki...lol
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Ray916MN on February 10, 2011, 10:27:34 AM
So did you get the bags? Is this the color scheme you got?

I really like this bike, it has the makings of being an excellent sport touring bike and it is very comfortable to sit on and ride. Then of course it is a Kawasaki...lol

I did the deal including the bags, but they aren't available yet, so all I have so far is a commitment to 15% off whatever they cost when they become available.

I got the red/black. Really reminds me of my old ZX11 and red/black has always been a favorite of mine for years.

I've been looking for a while for a new sport tourer, but I simply couldn't get myself to buy something as heavy and big as a C14, ST1300, FJR of VFR. At right around 500lbs with all fluids, this looks like the hot ticket.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: vince on February 10, 2011, 06:35:50 PM
I saw this bike at the show and it is very nice. I liked that the windshield moved up and down. Nice color too.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Jvs on February 10, 2011, 11:47:56 PM
Sir I envy you, been looking at one of these since they came out but get to pay for a new car instead :(
Looks like we all know who the cool guy on the block is now :)
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: flyinlow on February 11, 2011, 07:03:40 AM
Just read a review in Sport Rider and they were very happy with the bike, they say its almost the perfect all around sport bike/tourer and they feel that Kawasaki has defined its own class of bike now. Although, the Triumph Sprint GT is a close second, its a little heavier than the Kawi and is missing some of the go fast parts like USD forks, radial brakes, etc.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: tk on February 11, 2011, 11:00:41 AM
Congrats!  About time you got back on a Kawasaki :D
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: RCKT GRL on February 11, 2011, 01:22:49 PM
Congrats Ray!  she's a beauty.

on a side note -- that looks like a pretty high seat height.... are you sure your feet will touch?  lol j/k!!!  ;)
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Chris on February 11, 2011, 03:48:53 PM
LOL, Denyse

Nice bike Ray
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Ray916MN on February 14, 2011, 05:31:48 PM
..... Looks like we all know who the cool guy on the block is now :)

Fonzie's back?
Just read a review in Sport Rider and they were very happy with the bike, they say its almost the perfect all around sport bike/tourer and they feel that Kawasaki has defined its own class of bike now. Although, the Triumph Sprint GT is a close second, its a little heavier than the Kawi and is missing some of the go fast parts like USD forks, radial brakes, etc.

Sport Rider said "The bike many have been waiting for". They certainly pegged me. I wouldn't begin to consider the Sprint GT. 575lbs wet. Way too heavy.

Congrats!  About time you got back on a Kawasaki :D

Yeah, and isn't about time you got back on Honda?

Congrats Ray!  she's a beauty.

on a side note -- that looks like a pretty high seat height.... are you sure your feet will touch?  lol j/k!!!  ;)

Yeah, pretty high.... 3 inches lower than the seat on the WR. Everything is relative....
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Tim... on February 14, 2011, 06:39:48 PM
Interesting choice Ray, did you have a chance to test ride it?   And if so, it would be good to hear some first impressions.  Aside from my R6 race bikes, I have never ventured outside the BMW Motorrad family as they define the sport tourer (or touring sport bike).  I will sell my S1000RR either this year or next (way too much bike for my skill level), and get back into sport touring.  My previous (two) K1200S were sublime, but they came at a premium.  Yes, I am brand-loyal, but there are reasons for that.  Not looking for a sport-tourer shoot-out, just your rationale for picking this bike (take your cheap-ass out of the equation).  
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: GUZZI JOHN on February 15, 2011, 09:01:39 AM
  Looks a lot like my Fut-good one for Kawi to copy. Just wonder if they have the ergos down and the heat ducting-the Ape is definitely a cool ride. Guzzi John :banana:
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: allonm on February 15, 2011, 07:35:04 PM
Congratulation Ray. MCN thinks it's the perfect bike. 10 years ago I bought my first new bike, maybe this year I will get my second ever new bike. This warm weather (and the motorcycle show) is making me dream.
 :-*
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Ray916MN on February 16, 2011, 10:23:32 AM
Interesting choice Ray, did you have a chance to test ride it?   And if so, it would be good to hear some first impressions.  Aside from my R6 race bikes, I have never ventured outside the BMW Motorrad family as they define the sport tourer (or touring sport bike).  I will sell my S1000RR either this year or next (way too much bike for my skill level), and get back into sport touring.  My previous (two) K1200S were sublime, but they came at a premium.  Yes, I am brand-loyal, but there are reasons for that.  Not looking for a sport-tourer shoot-out, just your rationale for picking this bike (take your cheap-ass out of the equation). 

I haven't ridden one yet.

I bought it because:

- Relatively light weight (~500lb full wet)
- Factory hard bag option
- Seating position fits me.
- Reviews have been good
- I spoke with an original MN-Sportbike member who is now the Kawasaki district manager for our district who has ridden the bike and he was so favorably impressed by the bike, he is getting one for his use.
- I would have waited till I could ride one, but I believe these are going to be very popular bikes and the discount I got (~20%) was too good a deal to pass up. - Yeah I'm cheap.

  Looks a lot like my Fut-good one for Kawi to copy. Just wonder if they have the ergos down and the heat ducting-the Ape is definitely a cool ride. Guzzi John :banana:

I looked at Futura's last season, but they are huge by comparison. Too big for me at least. The Kaw is a better fit for me.

Congratulation Ray. MCN thinks it's the perfect bike. 10 years ago I bought my first new bike, maybe this year I will get my second ever new bike. This warm weather (and the motorcycle show) is making me dream.
 :-*


I'm really hoping the magazine reviews weren't just ad revenue generating positive drivel. Either way, I'm committed to finding out.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Elk on February 16, 2011, 12:10:34 PM
The bike should prove to be very popular if the buying public has a clue.  It is a great mix of characteristics.

Excellent buy, Ray.  It will be fun to learn what you think.  My bet is that you are going to love it.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: vince on February 17, 2011, 10:24:32 AM
You are going to like that bike.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Joel S on February 17, 2011, 01:36:40 PM
didn't have that option when i got my c14, otherwise it would have been a strong contender. my c14 feels huge some days, and a stretch to the ground most days for me.
oops, forgot about the wife again, needed a c14 for the both of us to ride, but so far its only been me.

the feel was much like the 650, with bar height, angle, things like that. After my seat was sent to Spencer my 650 was a comfy ride. (first bike so limited experience)

the cases will be very nice, they look like the givi plx cases.
I am surprised more people don't have tail bags or something, i always am putting something in there.

Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: GUZZI JOHN on February 18, 2011, 08:26:55 PM
  Sounds good for many people. I'm 6'3" so my Fut is fine for me but it's good to see the factories are building functional bikes around the size of the 600 sporties. GJ ;)
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Busa dave on February 26, 2011, 10:29:42 PM
Very nice bike :) 
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: carlson_mn on June 01, 2011, 08:28:14 PM
I'm late seeing this....  did you already post up a review on the bike yet Ray?  How do you like its handling?  Looks like a great bike, a shaft drive would be nice but that would have added weight.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: supraman on June 02, 2011, 12:03:51 AM
I'm late seeing this....  did you already post up a review on the bike yet Ray?  How do you like its handling?

I am also curious to hear your thoughts on this bike. Seems like kind of a modern interpretation of a GPz 900, with fuel injection and modern suspension/looks.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Ray916MN on June 02, 2011, 07:40:53 AM
It is a nice bike and characterizing it as a modern Ninja 900 (GPZ900) is accurate. I owned two of these years ago.

It is a very good real world performer.

Easy to go fast on. Up to a certain point it is easier to go fast on for me than my CBR. Handling is light, with a good balance of agility and stability. Much better at dealing with road imperfections than a full on sportbike, but not quite as sharp when pressed toward the limits. Cornering clearance could be a bit better as it is pretty easy to drag the pegs with plenty of handling performance seemingly left. Powerband is very accessible and makes it easy to just leave it in 6th and ride whatever. This is good as the transmission is a bit clunky, requiring higher than average pressure to shift and having more abrupt gear engagement. Initially I thought the bike vibrated annoyingly, but as it has broken in and with a switch to a good  motorcycle specific synthetic oil, engine vibration has dropped noticeably. I get the sense that the rear shock will not last very long. When I strapped a tail bag to the bike, the additional weight had a noticeable effect on handling. The mufflers are a problem for me beyond looks. They crowd the pegs a bit so when I have the balls of my feet on the pegs, I sometimes hit my heels on them and they hang low enough and close enough to the swingarm to make permanently fitting swingarm spools pretty much impossible. I've ordered a set of Akrapovic slip ons which should solve the muffler problems. They supposedly are as quiet as the stock cans, are appreciably lighter, significantly increase horsepower and also work with the factory hard bags which I also have on order. The handlebar sweep and drop isn't the greatest for me and the seat could be improved a bit. Again the aftermarket will probably have solutions. I've discovered all the flutes, strakes and sharp edges of the bodywork make this a difficult bike to wash and wax. It easily takes me twice as long to wash and was the bike as any other bike I own and it is very easy to miss dirt.

Net, net, it is a great bike with a few niggling issues  which does a particularly good job of covering a wide range of range of use. From sportbike to tour it offers very good performance with very little compromise.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: Elk on June 02, 2011, 09:30:48 AM
Excellent, thoughtful review.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: carlson_mn on June 02, 2011, 11:55:12 PM
Thanks Ray.  I was sitting on one at the hitching post and actually thought to myself what a pain the bike would be to detail.  I know it's probably a good bit faster than my FJR so it's gotta be a hoot to scoot around on.
Title: Re: My First New Bike
Post by: motorrad on June 03, 2011, 07:09:45 PM
congrats - beautiful bike.  I love the color.