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Title: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Ray916MN on October 04, 2010, 04:36:20 PM
As my wife will not be campaigning next year, I'll be putting together some week long rides in 2011.

This followed me home today. I'll set it up for 6 bikes. 2 fit in the bed of my truck, so at a minimum we'll be set to haul 8. With other tow vehicles and trailers in the group, we should be able to pull together a pretty good sized week long ride somewhere, where the riding is good.

So where are we going?
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Stinger on October 04, 2010, 05:01:10 PM
A day of trailering and then hitting the road on the bikes, I had a blast in CO especially Loveland Pass 4 times. I’d like a chance at Black Canyon since I missed that last time around.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: vince on October 04, 2010, 06:42:55 PM
I would be in for this just post some ideas for dates. The only sportbike trip I have been on was with Rodger and Tony to Star, it was great. If I go and drive my trailer can take three bikes. Don't pick the Moto GP of Indy week that's a must see for me again.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Chris on October 04, 2010, 07:07:32 PM
Idaho & Georgia have some good roads but quite the haul.
Wyoming, Kentucky, Tennessee, North Carolina, Arkansas is always good for several days as well (even if some may think it is overdone)

Yes Idaho, drive to Buffalo Wyoming (about 700miles) then head up and over the Big Horns, into Idaho then loop back to Wyoming :-)

I have a trailer that can haul 4 bikes and a tow vehicle can hall 4
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Greg on October 04, 2010, 07:21:38 PM
I'm in for a week long trip some place new!  ;)   I vote for before Memorial Day or after Labor Day (less tourists)

Vistas are without equal in the western states, but for my money traveling east yields tighter, better roads with some beautiful views as well.


lol, Arkansas is "overdone"?  That's like telling the BRI, DCTC and REI Coop regulars that riding around and around and around (with break markers! LMAO) all day is "over done".  To each his own.   ;)  :P  :catfight:  :headbang:

Well done and fully cooked,
Greg
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Ray916MN on October 04, 2010, 07:26:13 PM
I would be in for this just post some ideas for dates. The only sportbike trip I have been on was sith Rodger and Tony to Star, it was great. If I go and drive my trailer can take three bikes. Don't pick the Moto GP of Indy week that's a must see for me again.

Actually picking the week including the Indy GP round or Laguna Seca round is a great idea. I've incorporated WSBK and GP rounds into week long trips before. Hard to beat a week of riding in California, coupled with a weekend of watching races at Laguna.

Could do CO and southern UT coupled with the Miller WSBK round.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Jared on October 04, 2010, 07:51:58 PM
Hard to beat a week of riding in California, coupled with a weekend of watching races at Laguna.


This!!
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Greg on October 04, 2010, 08:00:36 PM
Hard to beat a week of riding in California, coupled with a weekend of watching races at Laguna.


This!!

Is a $2k trip. It would be sweet, but pricey.

Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: vince on October 04, 2010, 08:13:38 PM
A week of ridding and WSBK sounds pretty good to me.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: PKPK on October 04, 2010, 10:15:09 PM
Can we get my 1300 in your truck?  :)
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Chris on October 05, 2010, 06:50:15 AM
2K is out of my budget too, I can do a 6 day trip 2 in the truck and 4 on the bike.

Paul, ST 1300? I had one of those on my trailer, so I would think that it should be fine on Ray's
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Greg on October 05, 2010, 07:42:34 AM
My $2k estimate might be a little high.
Truck gas: 1800 miles round trip to Denver @ $3.00 gallon / 8 MPG = $675 round trip split by 4 guys = 168.75
Hotels: $120 a night (could be more) doubling up 2 guys = $60 x 7 nights = $420
Bikes gas: $30 day X 5 days riding = $150
Food: $50 per day x 7 = $350

That's $1087.75 at a bare minimum and not including WSBK tickets. My guess is that hotels run more than $120 a night in the Rockies.




Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Ray916MN on October 05, 2010, 08:10:32 AM
Quick Laguna Seca budget based on 10 days - 1 day out (about 24 hours of driving in shifts), 1 day back 6 days riding, 2 days at the races.

High cost of $1900 per person including transport cost, lodging, gas for 350mi/day riding, food

- 4 people go
- $3.30/gal gas
- $40/day food
- $50/night lodging outside of Monterrey
- $140/night in Monterrey
- Premium 3 day race package (w/parking)

Low cost - $1400

- 8 people go
- $3.10/gal gas
- $35/day food
- $40/night lodging outside of Monterrey
- $70/night lodging around Monterrey
- General admission 3 day race package (w/o parking)
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: PKPK on October 05, 2010, 08:30:09 AM
i was joking (about the ST in the pickup.)  I would never trailer that bike since it's perfectly suited for long distance travel.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: tk on October 05, 2010, 08:34:07 AM
I'm all for hitting the Ozarks. It isn't that far. It's cheap. There are plenty of roads for multiple days of riding.
It was a blast riding with Roger and Vince in NC, VA and GA but we spent a long time in the truck just getting
there and back. This is something I would do again but not for a couple years from now.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Greg on October 05, 2010, 09:15:26 AM
Quick Laguna Seca budget based on 10 days - 1 day out (about 24 hours of driving in shifts), 1 day back 6 days riding, 2 days at the races.

High cost of $1900 per person including transport cost, lodging, gas for 350mi/day riding, food

- 4 people go
- $3.30/gal gas
- $40/day food
- $50/night lodging outside of Monterrey
- $140/night in Monterrey
- Premium 3 day race package (w/parking)

Low cost - $1400

- 8 people go
- $3.10/gal gas
- $35/day food
- $40/night lodging outside of Monterrey
- $70/night lodging around Monterrey
- General admission 3 day race package (w/o parking)


This is way too long a trip for my time off schedule in 2011. I have other trips with the wife planned. I'm game for going out west, but 7 days (including travel days) is the extent of my availability. :(     My vote is for the Appalachians or the Ozarks but I understand the draw for some people to attend the races. 
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: flyinlow on October 05, 2010, 12:44:20 PM
Closer to home, Black Hills would be a good ride, might be less than a week, a little bit cheaper too.

Also, don't forget Texas Hill country, good riding down there, little bit further drive though.

Has anyone ridden in the SE Indiana, Ohio, Kentucky, West VA areas? Car and Driver used to do alot of on-road tests in that area and always raved about the roads.

Here are some good websites for motorcycle roads

http://www.motorcycleroads.us/
http://www.tntrailsandbyways.com/
http://www.byways.org/
http://www.motorcycleroads.com/
http://www.openroadjourney.com/
http://www.sundaymorningrides.com/
http://www.pashnit.com/

This one looks particularly fun
http://www.motorcycleroads.com/routes/MidWest/OH/OH_20.shtml
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Vander on October 05, 2010, 01:32:35 PM
I may be headed to Hudson Bay next Spring... I've started a thread about it on the MNSBR board.

Let me know!
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Tumbler on October 07, 2010, 02:31:55 AM
I'll have to keep tabs on this thread & details as they unfold.  I am definitely interested in at least one M/C trip this next season as long as the budget allows it.

With that said, I can also offer up a 3 place tilt M/C trailer that I've personally used to haul 3 f/s sportbikes down to San Antonio & back without a problem.

Look forward to seeing what details come up as time goes on!!
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: tk on October 07, 2010, 12:38:48 PM
Whatever we decide, it should be in conjunction with an MSTA event such as the BS Rally or Friends of Freddy or the SE Ohio event whatever
it is called.

The Black Hills have some great roads but there are not enough of them to justify more than 1 to 1.5 days of riding. By the second day we were
hitting up the same roads over again. Maybe if the ride was extended into the Big Horn Mts and/or Cooke City and Yellowstone we could hit
additional fun roads with primo scenery (Beartooth Pass). Don't think there are any MSTA events out that way unfortunately.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Chris on October 07, 2010, 03:51:01 PM
Whatever we decide, it should be in conjunction with an MSTA event such as the BS Rally or Friends of Freddy or the SE Ohio event whatever
it is called.

The Black Hills have some great roads but there are not enough of them to justify more than 1 to 1.5 days of riding. By the second day we were
hitting up the same roads over again. Maybe if the ride was extended into the Big Horn Mts and/or Cooke City and Yellowstone we could hit
additional fun roads with primo scenery (Beartooth Pass). Don't think there are any MSTA events out that way unfortunately.

Make one :)

I am really thinking hard about doing a trip to the, Big Horns, in to Idaho, down into Utah, to Colorado.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: flyinlow on October 07, 2010, 06:28:32 PM
Whatever we decide, it should be in conjunction with an MSTA event such as the BS Rally or Friends of Freddy or the SE Ohio event whatever
it is called.

The Black Hills have some great roads but there are not enough of them to justify more than 1 to 1.5 days of riding. By the second day we were
hitting up the same roads over again. Maybe if the ride was extended into the Big Horn Mts and/or Cooke City and Yellowstone we could hit
additional fun roads with primo scenery (Beartooth Pass). Don't think there are any MSTA events out that way unfortunately.

That sounds good, could make a week out of Black Hills, Yellowstone, Red Lodge
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: tk on November 04, 2010, 02:52:21 PM
Anymore opinions on where we might go next year?  I'll happily go wherever is decided if the dates work out.

My first choice is the Ozarks.
They are only 10-11 hours away.
There are plenty of good roads to justify multiple days of riding.
There are at least 3, maybe 4 MSTA events we could schedule around. That gives us the flexibilty to get the most attendees.
We have MSTA members Greg, Jared, Ray, etc who have been there enough to have scouted out the good places to eat (and more importantly, those to avoid).
Lodging is more economical than some of the other places mentioned.


Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Greg on November 04, 2010, 03:13:48 PM
Anymore opinions on where we might go next year?  I'll happily go wherever is decided if the dates work out.

My first choice is the Ozarks.
They are only 10-11 hours away.
There are plenty of good roads to justify multiple days of riding.
There are at least 3, maybe 4 MSTA events we could schedule around. That gives us the flexibilty to get the most attendees.
We have MSTA members Greg, Jared, Ray, etc who have been there enough to have scouted out the good places to eat (and more importantly, those to avoid).
Lodging is more economical than some of the other places mentioned.




My first choice is Arkansas as well, though a close 2nd would be the Appalachians.
I'd be a "no-show" if a trip forms that heads west for the races in Utah. Just too much time & money for me.
If a trip forms heading west, I'll probably coordinate another Arkansas trip with the usual suspects, though everyone is invited  :). As I said earlier, I'm open to going east as well.


Greg
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Chris on November 04, 2010, 03:31:56 PM
Arkansas is nice, I like it down there maybe a fall ride there :)

I am setting up 6 day trip 2 days in the truck 4 days on the bike riding.

We are going to start in Buffalo, Wyoming (784 miles from St Louis park. its St. Louis park to Harrison is 676 ) go through Yellowstone to Idaho the ride in Idaho for a day go down to Nevada over to Utah then back up to Wyoming we are going to be covering 450 miles per day.  I have no real interest in going to the races at Miller Motor Park, just to much money for me. I have figured out that with double occupancy in the hotel rooms and splitting the gas 4 ways this trip will cost about $780.00 per person.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Jon on November 05, 2010, 10:39:23 AM
I am in for this. However, without sounding too much like Lloyd (Gotcha!), it depends on who is going, there are some people I would not ride with in my own driveway let alone 2000+ miles away. The other side is I would ride anywhere with guys like Ray and Lloyd.....
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: 4kless on November 05, 2010, 12:09:49 PM
Chris - just a couple comments on your plan from having ridden that general area several times in the last few years..

- Avoid Yellowstone on the weekend. It's definitely worth doing, just know it will be impossible to make time that day.
- Make motel arragements for the area around Yellowstone (i.e. Red Lodge, Cooke City, Cody, Jackson or Idaho Falls) well in advance.
- Do go down past the Grand Tetons
- Most of NV and western UT is pretty boring.  I'd skip it in favor of North Central CO or the Sawtooth area of ID

Doug
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Chris on November 05, 2010, 01:02:00 PM
Jon, right now there are 4 1/2 ppl going 2 of them are not on the boards, but i am kind of selective who i ride with so if you like to ride with Lloyd, you will probably like rinding with us.

Thanks  doug.

Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Tim... on November 05, 2010, 07:37:16 PM
Yawn for AK, yawn for CO, yawn for NC,  think outside the box.  What about the Maritimes, or BC?

Tim...
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Ray916MN on November 05, 2010, 10:54:18 PM
Yawn for AK, yawn for CO, yawn for NC,  think outside the box.  What about the Maritimes, or BC?

Tim...


Never ridden AK (Alaska). I have ridden the Maritimes and driven BC and I'd prefer AR, CO or NC.

Just blocked out 6/25-7/3 to do STAR (http://sporttouring.us/HOME/2010/07/star-2011-johnson-city-tennessee/) (Johnson City, TN) and 3 days of riding after the event.

Probably put something together like I did when STAR was in Asheville, that Vince, Roger and Tony did after I had to bag out.

Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: vince on November 05, 2010, 11:00:46 PM
Looks pretty good to me.
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: Ray916MN on November 19, 2010, 07:47:07 PM
Just did a first pass at planning a 9 day (2 weekends plus 5 weekdays) trip including hitting the WSBK round at Miller Motorsports park outside of SLC.

Doesn't look good. The race in 2011 is Memorial Day weekend and the route I was thinking of putting together followed the Continental Divide from the Beartooth Pass down through southern CO and across southern UT and then up to SLC. Unfortunately significant snows in the Rockies through the first week of June are not that rare, so this isn't going to work.

Next pass will be at planning a 10 day (weekends plus 6 weekdays) trip including hitting Laguna Seca for the MotoGP round (July 22-24, 2011).
Title: Re: 2011 Planning - Phase 1
Post by: 4kless on November 20, 2010, 03:09:02 PM
Ray - I've ridden to/from Miller WSB 3 of the last 4 years and I think your chances might be better than they appear. I did not go this year, but the 2009 race was also late May. That trip included a two-day loop on the front side through higher elevations in CO & UT and the only road that was iffy was Rocky Mtn Nat'l Park, which had been open for less than 48 hours prior to my arrival. They do a pretty good job keeping the roads open and clear, since many of them are the only access to tourist/resort areas. Based on experience; you just need to have a contingency plan, and be prepared to stop and/or backtrack if the weather gets crappy. DAMHIK  :D