Yes there was a yellow bike there and it was very tempting to buy it and make some one jealous.

Haha, I'm sure that would've made a local wheelie popping yellow gixxer rider very jealous indeed!

It should be here some time this month. ZX10R ABS.

That will make ME very jealous! Hope to see you flogging that thing at a ZARS day sometime this summer...

Quote from: Vander on April 09, 2012, 08:53:51 AM

I was looking into setting up a "group buy" for some psycho-therapy...  any interest? 

its gonna take a BIG couch

You calling me FAT?! 

I actually agree with Lloyd (kind of) on this one. It does seem to be a kind of popularity contest rather then a referendum on a user's posts and is of limited use.

On the flip side I see what Ray was trying to do. I think a forum mod like this one might be more useful?
http://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1890

You can disable negative votes if you choose, you can toggle on the option to see who voted how, and it's PER post. So you're essentially voting a POST up/down, instead of voting a PERSON up/down. More useful IMHO.

NOTE: I found that mod in 5m of googling, not necessarily recommending that exact mod be dropped in. Just illustrated what I consider a more useful concept of non-anonymous input based on posts.

Speaking of tires, who's got the best prices? Looking for frnts and rears..

Simply Sport Bikes is pretty hard to beat on pricing for a local option, and they've got a pretty good selection.

This group ride thing is funny.  I would be willing to bet you all know who you like to ride with and why.  You most likely have phone numbers for each one of them.  If you dont like how the group setting goes and really only want to ride with a certain sub set of riders.......call your buddies on the phone and go for a ride, leave the posting rides off the forum if you dont like who shows up!

Seems pretty simple to me.

+1

BEN;
Using you as an example doesn't make it a personal attack-it is simply using you as an example, nothing personal about it except you could see it that way since it is you used as the example.
 Of course I could have searched youtube for a video of someone none of us know and used that example-but that would be too much like work and an example many wouldn't be able to relate to or judge speed etc by. Especially since many know Rogers pace, so they could relate.

And if you had contained your post to discussing the video/incident you were trying to make an example of, and not veered into accusing me of being egotistical (a rather ironic accusation coming from you) I would've agreed. But of course, you didn't. The video is posted, along with my takeaway. People can judge for themselves what happened, the road is hwy 123 near Mt. Judea in AR and the rider ahead of me was indeed Roger.

And to answer your question of where in that post do you brag of being fast or good---it isn't in that posting---it is just how you talk, the snide comments you continually make etc.....(on rides, on facebook, at Barber, on other forums, in other postings, pretty much all the time) It isn't just me that sees you "bragging" of how fast you are. It isn't me putting those words in your mouth.
 I only used the Barber lap time comparison as a reference to your "being fast" comments. I don't consider myself "fast" at the track, and I have won lots of races and routinely run lap times well under most. I get smoked by the "fast" guys that are actually "fast".

Clearly, it isn't "just you", since we don't interact anywhere except here. In fact there is precisely one person (not you) that can tick all the bold-ed places, who has been surprisingly absent from this thread on track riding. I assumed there was someone else behind all the "bragging" remarks, now I know. Not sure why this person thinks that way, but that's their right I guess.

I hope I don't, and don't think I do, come across as egotistical in "real life" or other places. Because I certainly don't regard myself as fast or a model rider per se (my words), I do enjoy razzing my friends good naturedly (and expect and do get it right back), especially at the track or on Facebook. I could see how someone quietly observing could misconstrue that I suppose. I have met and ridden with quite a few of the active members on here, which is something I value about this forum over the others, almost everyone is a face not just a screen name. They are free to draw their own conclusions about me from actual experience, not just internet hyperbole.

Anywho, I'm tired of arguing on the internet. It never gets anywhere anyways. You used your example of my video, whether or not it really backed up what you were trying to say. I'm ready to move on and actually talk abut bikes and riding again...

Trackdays of any sort do no equate to a huge cushion on the street as you claim-on the contrary what I see all the time is people who do trackdays routinely somehow equate to thinking suddenly they are fricking an expert and that the fact they can go "fast" on a closed course racetrack that somehow now they have these awesome skills that they have all this room in reserve on the street (or as you put it "huge cushion"). It is a bunch of bullshit and anyone who has been around long enough knows it.

So in the mood of not being a personal attack.........
Not to pick you out-but it is an easy example and you provide almost all the evidence yourself.......
Are you claiming you had some "huge cushion" following Roger in Arkansas when you rode right off the road? Why didn't all your vast skills of the trackdays save you from such a "novice" mistake?
 You clearly fit squarely into the typical stereotype of people that do trackdays-you think you are "fast" and therefore you think that means you are "good".
 Without making this personal, this is strictly for comparison---I ran Barber on a 250 Ninja years ago and ran 11 seconds a lap faster than your fastest lap and you were on a bike that makes 5 times the horsepower.-----You are not fast, despite your bragging of being fast.

Yes there are examples of people who can do trackdays and take something away from them that is beneficial to street riding.
Yes there are examples of people who successfully ride street and track (without riding like an idiot on the street)
Yes it is possible to do both--but the vast majority are adrenaline junkies that can't discern the difference between street smarts and track "fast"

Nowhere do I say it has to be street or track.....I have done plenty of both.

But the vast majority of trackday junkies that I know (likely in the 90%+ range of them). Cannot or will not ride on the street in a manner that isn't mimicking "track riding"--ie. wrong lines for the street, following too close, knee down, using oncoming traffic lanes, hard braking and hard acceleration, riding at or near their limit etc........And to me that certainly isn't "safe" or "controlled" riding-it is them trying to prove they are "fast"

1. While you said twice you didn't want to make it personal, you clearly did.
2. When I first read your post I was a little confused, because you didn't even seem to be replying to my post. You quoted my entire post for posterity, so you know I haven't edited it. Where in there  did I say I was "fast", an "frickin expert", or "bragging of being fast"? I am not a cocky person, and have no illusions of being "fast" on the track compared to many riders. And on the street being "fast" isn't really something to brag about in my opinion...

Not to pick you out-but it is an easy example and you provide almost all the evidence yourself.......
Are you claiming you had some "huge cushion" following Roger in Arkansas when you rode right off the road? Why didn't all your vast skills of the trackdays save you from such a "novice" mistake?
 You clearly fit squarely into the typical stereotype of people that do trackdays-you think you are "fast" and therefore you think that means you are "good".

I have to admit, I LOL'd at this one. I know you don't like me for whatever reasons, and I don't care, but you're really stretching to use me as an example here. The referred to footage (which you must've found from trolling my Facebook or Youtube channel since it was never posted to the forums) had nothing to do with overriding my "vast" trackday skills or in any way riding over my head. It was at the end of a long day of hard riding, I was tired, made a mental mistake and rode off the INSIDE edge of the road by a couple inches. I stayed off the brakes didn't swerve and rode right back on without incident. Stupid? yes. Scary? yes, considering it might not have gone as well as it did. An example of riding over my head while trying to "impress" others with how "fast" I was? No, LOL. I was riding at a reasonable pace on a gentle corner, just a stupid mental mistake. Here's the video...

zx10r - off road excursion

The takeaway from this incident for me was when you're mentally tired, pull back before you make a mental error. I'm willing to admit when I make mistakes...

And again, never said I was "fast" and therefore "good". That's purely just you trying to put words in my mouth.

Without making this personal, this is strictly for comparison---I ran Barber on a 250 Ninja years ago and ran 11 seconds a lap faster than your fastest lap and you were on a bike that makes 5 times the horsepower.-----You are not fast, despite your bragging of being fast.

Congratulations? Again, never bragged of being "fast". Perhaps you misconstrued my posting those video's as me bragging? I just posted them because I thought it was cool what you could do with technology (the GPS data overlays) not because I was trying to impress anyone with my laptimes.

I was down a bike for a 6 weeks in the middle of the summer (insert fist shaking at GSX-R here) and thus didn't make my goal of 20k. But I did manage to get 16k miles in, 10k on the GSX-R and 6k on the zx10r.

 No commuting miles, nearly all twisty riding. Mostly MN,IA,WI... but also ~2500 Arkansas miles spread over two trips and 6 track days spread over BIR (short and long course), MAM, and Barber. It was a good year of riding.