This saddens me to no end.  Not for the obvious, but for the irony.

http://www.startribune.com/local/133336578.html

"The patrol's report said Byro is not suspected of alcohol use but wasn't wearing a helmet. David Byro, who also has a motorcycle, said he doesn't wear a helmet either. "The accident happened not for lack of a helmet," he said. "It happened because somebody did something wrong.""

I feel very sorry for the family of this vet, laying in the hospital with a brain injury.  But it seems lost on the father that had the son been wearing a helmet, he would probably be home today nursing just broken bones.  Yes, someone caused the accident, but the choice of no helmet winds up the bigger factor in the outcome.

I wonder if they were still drunk from an all nighter.  One expects those shenanigans at 2 am, not 7:30 am.

There may be another factor at play in this incident......

Yeah, well if you read the whole thread......   

Cups, boxes, road paint, strange bike, no linked brakes, rider braking in a corner etc, etc.....

Yet not many talk about the extreme speed coming down a hill on a curvy road with guardrails.  No wonder you're at the whim of so many variables.

Just one of the old guys here, kindly reminding you young guys to ride the motorbike on the public roads to smell the flowers.  Go to the racetrack to get the speed out of your system.   

BTW, kudos for having the courage to "put it out there".  Not many would have the balls to do this and I admire that.

Probably because they bounce off things and tumble down the road.  Too bad the occupants wind up with scrambled brains after 20+ rolls.

Well you should know better than to let a bunch of Harleys hang with ya Lloyd!   

Thanks Ray, now find me a free sportbike offer. 

I have not been harsh with my judgments of other sites.

IMO, I didn't see any particular harsh attitude toward any particular board on MN-MSTA.  Certainly not like the vitrolic postings about ZG on other forums.  But I don't claim to read every posting so maybe I missed something.

I made one comment about watching a train of 25 bikes pull away from me on my one and only MNSBR ride.  It was a factual observation, nothing more...no pontificating, no particular point....nothing.  But I know, at least, one person who seemed to take offense and I wonder if this wasn't what motivated Yul.  The irony is, they could post about all the old, MN-MSTA farts riding slow on their rides over there and I would have agreed with them.  Sometimes I wonder if humans lost their ability to ignore what mildly offends them.