^ I hear you have video of the crash....do you have it posted up somewhere?

Oh and there was also a woman who crashed that day only about 2 miles the other side of 93/95 Kwik Trip--she too was air lifted after hitting a guard rail...presumably no helmet

"a short lecture giving everyone a heads up, that this aint no race, and to keep the ego's in check is a good idea. Also I was on one of these rides and one of my friends was told he was riding too close for his first time riding with this crew (problem solved) If you are a respected rider and you put your foot down when someone is ridin like a dill weed, it should only be looked at as the right thing to do. I would rather have someone say, knock it off or go home, rather than I new the guy was gonna crash, he was ridin like an idiot."

While most of the regular leaders have given a lecture or two, have had to say something to a rider or two, this should not be an expected event...believe me raising my voice and getting all pissy with someone or a group of someones isn't my idea of a good time, pre ride or anytime.....and my trigger----I can raise my voice at a moments notice with little provacation.
 Many members have their "favorites" to ride with, this is generally riders who one really enjoys (personally or just conversationally) and ride very similarly. None of those riders require being lectured and shouldn't.
So if a lecture is "required" at the beginning or during a ride then it is likely you have the wrong group of riders along----the wrong group of riders can lead to stress, distractions, and an overall not so enjoyable event-which causes people to not attend, not lead and not participate and potentially could increase the chances of a crash.

* I understand growing a group, a community or whatever...I am glad we don't invite the "other" forums to join in any longer-

"Over my 13 seasons of street riding I'd guesstimate of the "accidents" I've witnessed, 40% were forced and 60% were unforced."

My experience (way over 30 years now)is about 1% "forced" and 99% "unforced"--but everyones defination of same will vary....
my deer hits-unforced, I could have done things differently to avoid them- I did what I thought best (in those 1-2 seconds) to mitigate the damages to myself and the bike- but still ended up hitting the deer...I wasn't forced into making a stupid choice, I was forced to make a choice, which I did and only I could control that decision...my deer hits, my fault. (granted the options (in the time allowed to decide) did not look more promising)

I have hit gravel in a turn and couldn't even see it and fallen...that isn't a forced error, I should have seen it, should have gone slower, should have done many things differently...gravel, sand, decreasing radius turn those are all unforced errors, nobody forced you to hit any of it or ride wide or, or, or.....

I have had  roads end on me ,  I should have seen and recognized sooner,  I ended up riding into gravel that I should have been able to stop prior to getting to---these aren't forced errors, road signs or not, shadows or not...These are unforced errors, situations I should have recognized earlier and been able to avoid.

A forced error--Tonys deer coming out of nowhere and running into the side of his bike.... a car suddenly swerving into your lane as you meet (drunk or otherwise)....a tree branch falling on the road right in front of you giving you little options but to hit it or go around in the gravel and risk "loosing control" or run into oncoming traffic etc....this list  (forced errors) is extremely short..IMO

 Perhaps I am just used to hearing about atleast 4 or 5 crashes every week for the past several years

Many of these are easily predictable just on how the people ride, some are just a fluke occurances and some are understandable in the nature of the spirited riding done and the locations of said riding, others are nature fighting back....lol
I am pretty sure that most members on here certainly do their own version of risk management and ride within some boundaries they set for themselves...I only know of a couple members who routinely go ride triple digits, most are pretty conservative "pace" riders...or atleast those I ride with regularly

The 3 deer hits from members of this forum this year hopefully is an anomily and not a new trend.

The airlifted biker in Arcadia--that was a cruiser woman from that area wasn't it?? She crashed by following another biker into a bridge or something--(not from this forum)--not that I am trying to be insensitive to her injuries or anything

If we define a crash as anytime the bike is damaged through contact with the ground or an object,
I have crashed 3 times this season.

Your bike highsiding itself in the wind in front of The Creamary while you are inside getting an ice cream cone is hardly a crash.

Why you surely could have parked differently or any number of circumstances could have happened to avoid this---it still is not a crash..........

The Deer---well you didn't fall down or run into a tree, a pole, a car a truck etc....and yes your bike suffered significant damage...I would not consider this a crash either, although its drawing a fine distinction as to "fault" in my opinion---as nearly any circumstance could be changed with a "if only" (I had been going 5 mph slower or faster, or not passed that car or passed that car, or.......)

So stop beating yourself up over a tip over where you were not even within sight of the bike and a deer running into the side of your bike....just my .02

Spare battery is only 19.99 (retail, you can get them cheaper)

I carry the spare with me, the 32 G memory card will easily hold over 10 hours of footage-which means @ 2.5 hrs per battery-you would go through both batteries twice long before the card is full....call me crazy but why would you need the camera on for more than 2.5 hours continuously....battery swap takes what 30 seconds...of course you do need to find a charging source at some point

I haven't experienced any issues thus far with charging off the usb port of the computer...of course an AC charger would be nice for when a computer isn't handy.

 No problem I was thinking you were from further south...northfield area---wrong screen name

Being that close I would just go them as well