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General Category => General Banter => Topic started by: vince on December 30, 2011, 05:48:44 PM

Title: Con or a good deal.
Post by: vince on December 30, 2011, 05:48:44 PM
You get a ticket and you show up to see the prosecutor. He give you a choice of $145 or $275. Both you plead guilty. The cheaper price the ticket goes on your driving record. The other you are paying prosecution costs not the fine and if you don't get another ticket that the court hears about for one year they will dismiss the case. But if you do they will send the ticket to the state DOT.
Is this a big con or a good deal. You have less than a minute to decide.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: beedawg on December 30, 2011, 06:00:12 PM
I'll take the $275 deal.

This reminds me of a speeding ticket Someone got in Arkansas a few years ago.  When Someone got home, Someone called the number on the ticket and asked them if there was any way Someone could keep the ticket off Someone's record.  They gave Someone another phone number to call.  Someone called it and talked to a person who told Someone to send a check for I-don't-remember-how-much to I-don't-remember-where.  Someone did it.  And the speeding ticket never went on Someone's record.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: Aprilian on December 30, 2011, 09:05:45 PM
I'd take the "no similars" ask for 6mos, not 1 year, and say thank you.
I took my son to court to teach him how the system works.  Every kid should have to go as part of their first ticket (it was his second).  Poor guy just wanted to mail in the money.   Judge gave him lower fee and 12 months no similars.

let me translate your question... 275 or 145 and get hosed by your insurance company.  Your insurance company will charge you 2-300 for the privelege of saving money in court.

I suggest you never show up in court if you don't know how a Stay in Lui of Adjutication works.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: gely on December 31, 2011, 11:45:05 AM
I'll take the higher fine, but ask for 6 months.  I've done this more than a few times in the past, and yes its legit.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: vince on December 31, 2011, 12:02:41 PM
This is take it or leave it deal or see the judge. Questions were asked for a better deal.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: gely on December 31, 2011, 12:53:43 PM
This is take it or leave it deal or see the judge. Questions were asked for a better deal.
If you have the time see the judge.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: gely on December 31, 2011, 12:54:11 PM
This is take it or leave it deal or see the judge. Questions were asked for a better deal.
If you have the time see the judge and ask for less.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: vince on December 31, 2011, 01:57:45 PM
I don't think a judge give you a choice. So what he says is finale. So it may be worse.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: Hope2Ride on December 31, 2011, 04:07:22 PM
I just love how certain people think they know it all  ::)
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: Tim... on December 31, 2011, 05:43:45 PM
Go see a lawyer.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: Aprilian on December 31, 2011, 11:04:31 PM
I just love how certain people think they know it all  ::)
Care to say more?  I'm not sure what your beef is on the facts. 
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: gely on January 01, 2012, 09:56:13 AM
I don't think a judge give you a choice. So what he says is finale. So it may be worse.

I've gone to a judge once, after the prosecutor wouldn't give me less than a year of probation.  I simply told the judge my record is clean for the last 4 years and  I like to keep it that way, and the judge gave me 6 months instead of one year.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: vince on January 01, 2012, 10:16:53 AM
That's good for you and the gamble paid off for you. But if some a hole was just up for stealing from a home the judge may not be in a good mood. He can do anything. He may raise the fine and still do a year you just don't know. Two times back in Redwing I was waiting to see the prosecutor and I was 22 over he lowered it to a nonmoving and doubled the fine and this would keep it off my record and it did. But I was watching the judge later and he was so nice to everyone I think I could of talked my way out of it. Right. You can't win if your not in the ball park.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: Hope2Ride on January 01, 2012, 08:46:33 PM
Vince reading your first post if I truly had only a minute to decide I would've most likely paid the higher fine and prayed I don't get busted for a year so it stayed off my record.

But if you wanna talk about F'd up, complicated traffic court cases.... well you already know about that one case, lol. Its STILL not resolved!!!
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: gely on January 01, 2012, 09:17:49 PM
That's good for you and the gamble paid off for you. But if some a hole was just up for stealing from a home the judge may not be in a good mood. He can do anything. He may raise the fine and still do a year you just don't know. Two times back in Redwing I was waiting to see the prosecutor and I was 22 over he lowered it to a nonmoving and doubled the fine and this would keep it off my record and it did. But I was watching the judge later and he was so nice to everyone I think I could of talked my way out of it. Right. You can't win if your not in the ball park.

From what I know RedWing and Canon Falls are special case.  I was leading a ride through Canon Falls over the summer, and Casey got a ticket for 111, and Chrie got a ticket 87? on 55.  They went to court a few months later and they both just paid the fines and not even probation(I might have to confirm the no probation, but that's what I remember them telling me).

It's rare that a judge would give you more than recommended by a prosecutor.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: pkpk on January 02, 2012, 03:58:39 PM
111 and no probation?  Something doesn't sound right here.  ;)
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: gely on January 02, 2012, 08:33:15 PM
111 and no probation?  Something doesn't sound right here.  ;)

Just talked to Casey and he said judge reduced from 111 to 64 on 55, no probation, no record, just paid fine.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: pkpk on January 02, 2012, 09:12:05 PM
There is an automatic license revocation in Minnesota for speeds exceeding 100 mph.  Seems strange a judge would casually reduce it to a Dimler.

Any chance it was plead to a Dimler AND a Careless Driving perhaps?  :)  You know you can look these things up. 

http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/default.aspx (http://pa.courts.state.mn.us/default.aspx)
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: pkpk on January 02, 2012, 09:33:39 PM
I think I found it.  The Careless dismissed but that fine....ouch.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: gely on January 03, 2012, 09:01:42 AM
I think I found it.  The Careless dismissed but that fine....ouch.

If that was me, I would gladly pay that fine, than having the careless on my record. I was really surprised when they let him go with just a ticket when caught at 111 on 55.  I do remember back when Minnesota passed the 100mph law and the automatic suspension.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: Jared on January 03, 2012, 09:35:23 PM
Hard to say.  The last couple of tickets I've had didn't impact my insurance.  Not sure if they didn't check or what happened there.  I would probably take the moving violation unless I was looking at switching up my coverage in the future.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: Hope2Ride on January 05, 2012, 03:39:29 AM
There is an automatic license revocation in Minnesota for speeds exceeding 100 mph.

I got busted going 109 last fall and my license didn't get revoked. I've been pulled over on the bike since that happened and im sure if it was revoked they would've informed me.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: aschendel on January 05, 2012, 12:21:46 PM
no same or similars is always my choice.

a.s.
Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: pkpk on January 05, 2012, 10:09:28 PM
There is an automatic license revocation in Minnesota for speeds exceeding 100 mph.

I got busted going 109 last fall and my license didn't get revoked. I've been pulled over on the bike since that happened and im sure if it was revoked they would've informed me.

Count your blessings.  It's a real law.    https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=169.14 (https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=169.14)

"Subd. 1a.License revocation for extreme speed.

The driver's license of a person who violates any speed limit established in this section, by driving in excess of 100 miles per hour, is revoked for six months under section 171.17, or for a longer minimum period of time applicable under section 169A.53, 169A.54, or 171.174."

BTW, Cops generally don't patrol racetracks.  ;)




Title: Re: Con or a good deal.
Post by: aschendel on January 06, 2012, 12:24:04 AM
oh, it's a con *and* a good deal :)