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Offline Aprilian

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #30 on: April 24, 2012, 09:05:52 AM »
By definition the motorcycle has crossed the center line. Is he riding over his head, not even close.
  I searched for local statutes and can't find that MN defines the tires as the definition of what is (or is not) considered to be "within the lane".   Are you aware of other statutes that clarify?   https://www.revisor.mn.gov/statutes/?id=169.18&year=2011

Without clear statute, any officer can make a determination of what is part of the vehicle.

In case there is any confusion, my original post was about the advertising value of the picture when a stated goal of this website is to attract new MSTA members.   I believe that in some corners the safest way around is across the yellow (for example when there is sand in your lane).  However, I don't care to cross the line when there is no reason to.  I enjoy riding curvy roads and find I have a tendency to try to straighten them if I ride them too fast. My observations in group rides is that speed wins out over precision sometimes and then we tend to see the bikes hang over the yellow.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 06:11:36 PM by Aprilian »
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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #31 on: April 24, 2012, 11:51:47 AM »
 
Different strokes for different folks.

Note the 4 bikes and their following distance. Even at 40mph that is probably .3 of a second. And this is the national MSTA newsletter.
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« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 01:38:36 PM by Greg »
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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #32 on: April 24, 2012, 02:38:42 PM »
So you are supporting the line in the picture (willing to cross the center line) and are willing to take some liberties with The Pace, or are against taking risk?  And you're here to spark conversation among a handful of active participants who respect the rider in the picture but then you question the thoughtfulness of responses...  I'd like to question the thoughtfulness of the question; I unfortunately can't tell if you're asking about an Idea, an Event or a Person.
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Have ridden for many years and many miles with the rider in said picture.  My intention is talk about an idea - is this a safe line.

As I mentioned, my line is dictated by a number of environmental factors; and yes it is the line I would take given the factors Vince mentioned previously.

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #33 on: April 24, 2012, 02:52:10 PM »
The outrage!
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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #34 on: April 24, 2012, 05:42:53 PM »
Different strokes for different folks.

Look at their lines though, not one of them is anywhere near the double yellows.

What is the point of throwing out meaningless numbers 40 mph and .3s - all that equates to me is 58 2/3 ft, which means what?

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #35 on: April 24, 2012, 07:39:47 PM »
My point being that you can find a myriad of photographs in the motorcycling community that exhibit less than perfect riding behavior and the world doesn't stop turning.
« Last Edit: April 24, 2012, 09:45:59 PM by Greg »
These people have taught me more about riding than any day spent on a track: Larry B, Tony K, Vince J, Mr. Wonderful, V2Neal, Marty F, Kevin B, Devon W, Ehrich, Mike A, John L, Arnell, Kirk, Ray C

Track days are like climbing the rock wall at REI.
Perhaps I need to stop taking the high road.

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #36 on: April 25, 2012, 02:16:29 AM »
Maybe they rode close together just to get the pic? Just sayin..
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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #37 on: April 25, 2012, 03:17:44 AM »
Maybe they rode close together just to get the pic? Just sayin..

True... and they are riding slow and most people tend to bunch up at slow speeds. Since they have funny colors on their gear it's okay.
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