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Offline Tim...

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"Street" Line
« on: April 23, 2012, 05:45:19 PM »
Just curious as to what peeps think about the line the rider on the mn-msta.com front page is taking, which I presume to be WI 95.  Is this a safe line for the street?

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #1 on: April 23, 2012, 06:09:33 PM »
We all know that road very well. We all know that you can see all of the road from the bottom of the hill. Also we know that about half of the corners you can see around the next corner. An we know that it is very easy to widen up your turn when you are on the outside of a corner. The road surface looks clean but he is in the tire track where he should be. If there was no car coming from the blind side of the next corner and one just came into view he would already be straighting up and his body would not be on the center line. I thought he looked pretty good.

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #2 on: April 23, 2012, 06:23:29 PM »
Must disagree Vince, the top of the hill is blind.  My question was about taking a racing line vs. a street line, what is the difference on that stretch of road, and what should we be advocating?

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #3 on: April 23, 2012, 07:05:49 PM »
i believe this horse has been beaten to death several times in the past year or two.

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #4 on: April 23, 2012, 07:18:06 PM »
Must have missed the past couple of years... Even so, it is a topic worth discussion every once in a while, don't you think?

What are your impressions, beyond the mundane?

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #5 on: April 23, 2012, 07:18:19 PM »
I was there that day of the picture so I know the corner. I really don't see this as a racing line. You must know that most bikers when they lean that their body may go over or onto the center line. This corner when your at the one before it you can see to the top of the hill I was there just yesterday. And when you are in this corner you have all kinds of time to up right the bike. This length of road is very wide for a hill so you have pretty good site lines.

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #6 on: April 23, 2012, 07:35:57 PM »
First off I have ridden behind this guy, and most of us wish we could hold a street line like he does. Second if this was Vince on a day he was feelin frisky, his knee would be over the white line on the inside of that corner.
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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #7 on: April 23, 2012, 07:37:05 PM »
There are very few riders on this forum that could take that line aggressively without major risk.  Is that something we want to portray?

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #8 on: April 23, 2012, 07:39:52 PM »
What risk do you see. If you didn't know the road the very next corner maybe a mile down the road. No risk.

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #9 on: April 23, 2012, 07:41:30 PM »
does anyone know how fast this guy was going? what the traffic conditions were?  its just a picture.  that road is about as wide open as it gets.  one doesn't need to be even speeding to drag an elbow and make it look fast.  so i guess it would be hard to have a logical discussion unless you had all the information present.

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #10 on: April 23, 2012, 07:42:36 PM »
I think your lookin for somethin that aint there.
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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #11 on: April 23, 2012, 07:51:09 PM »
That picture is why I chose my signature....
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"Crossing the centerline at any time except during a passing maneuver is intolerable, another sign that you're pushing too hard to keep up. Even when you have a clean line of sight through a left-hand kink, stay to the right of the centerline." Nick Ienatsch, The Pace http://tinyurl.com/3bxn82

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #12 on: April 23, 2012, 07:58:25 PM »
Would anyone care to take a stab at responding to Ian, right or wrong?

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #13 on: April 23, 2012, 08:03:12 PM »
By legal terms has he even crossed the center line?

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Re: "Street" Line
« Reply #14 on: April 23, 2012, 08:09:03 PM »
By legal terms has he even crossed the center line?

depends on the cop.  tires no, body yes.