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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #180 on: June 23, 2012, 04:19:15 PM »
All available information for
incident number 12506017.

    Incident Number:    12506017    Incident Date/Time:    6/23/2012 2:31:00 PM
    MSP District:    2500    Incident Contact:    MSP PIO LT. ERIC ROESKE 651.201.7146
    Number of Individuals:    NO COUNT       
    Number of Vehicles:    NONE RECORDED    
                   
    Location:    EB 94 AT CR 144    Road Type:    BLACK TOP
    Milepost:    NONE RECORDED    Road Condition:    DRY
    County:    HENNEPIN    Number of Lanes:    4
    Crash Type:    NONE RECORDED    Divided/Undivided:    DIVIDED ROADWAY
    Incident Classification:    SERIOUS INJURY    Hazardous Material:    NOT PRESENT
                   
    Assisting Agencies:
       
    ROGERS POLICE DEPARTMENT
    WRIGHT COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE
                   
     
     
          
    IncidentDescription:    WE ARE INVESTIGATING A MOTORCYCLE CRASH. WHEN WE HAVE MORE INFORMATION ON THIS WE WILL POST IT.
            
    Information Complete:    INFORMATION IS NOT COMPLETE   
    Last Updated:    6/23/2012 3:01:27 PM
         
         

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #181 on: June 23, 2012, 04:20:20 PM »
ll available information for
incident number 12900580.

    Incident Number:    12900580    Incident Date/Time:    6/22/2012 9:57:00 PM
    MSP District:    2900    Incident Contact:    MN STATE PATROL DISTRICT 2900 - (218) 846-8260
    Number of Individuals:    2       
    Number of Vehicles:    1    
                   
    Location:    HWY 59    Road Type:    BLACK TOP
    Milepost:    250    Road Condition:    DRY
    County:    OTTER TAIL    Number of Lanes:    2
    Crash Type:    NONE RECORDED    Divided/Undivided:    UNDIVIDED ROADWAY
    Incident Classification:    PERSONAL INJURY    Hazardous Material:    NOT PRESENT
                   
    Assisting Agencies:
       
                   
     Person 1:    HEMBERGER, DALE F , 59 , OF UNDERWOOD MN , DRIVER OF VEH 1 , Phys. Cond. : INJURY - NON LIFE THREATENING
     Person 2:    HEMBERGER, JUDITH A , 54 , OF UNDERWOOD MN , PASSENGER OF VEH 1 , Phys. Cond. : TREATED AND RELEASED
     

    Vehicle 1:
       2003   HARLEY DAVIDSON ROADSTER 
     
          
    IncidentDescription:    VEH 1 WAS SOUTHBOUND HWY 59 WHEN HIT A DEER. VEH 1 A MOTORCYLE WITH 2 RIDERS. VEH 1 WENT DOWN AFTER HITTING DEER. BOTH RIDERS WERE EJECTED OFF OF VEH 1.
            
    Information Complete:    INFORMATION IS NOT COMPLETE   
    Last Updated:    6/23/2012 1:34:00 AM
         

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #182 on: June 25, 2012, 10:45:58 AM »
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    BLUE EARTH COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE
                   
     Person 1:    NELSON, DAVID W , 71 , OF BLOOMINGTON MN , DRIVER OF VEH 1 , Phys. Cond. : MINOR INJURY
     

    Vehicle 1:
       2005   HONDA ROAD-STAR 
     
          
    IncidentDescription:    VEH 1 WAS EB HWY 60 IN CONSTRUCTION ZONE. VEH 1 FAILED TO NEGOTIATE CORNER, RAN OFF ROAD. STATE PATROL ON SCENE INVESTIGATING. BLUE EARTH CO SHERIFF OFFICE, LAKE CRYSTAL AMBULANCE AND GOLD CROSS ASSISTING.
            
    Information Complete:    INFORMATION BELIEVED COMPLETE   
    Last Updated:    6/15/2012 5:41:31 AM


Dave's account of the incident:
http://forums.delphiforums.com/mctourer/messages?msg=48310.1

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #183 on: June 25, 2012, 12:28:58 PM »
Oh, I didn't realize this was Dave.  His account said Gold Wing, Sheriff report says Road Star (Yamaha makes those.)

Good lesson there, don't trust barrels or markers at construction zones.  Keep the speed down and use the high beams as needed.

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #184 on: June 29, 2012, 10:58:06 AM »
Wow, interesting story that also really shows me that what is posted from wherever PKPK is getting it doesn't really give me anything with which to assess the situations being "reported"!

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #185 on: June 29, 2012, 12:34:09 PM »
Those are preliminary filings of an incident from the MNDPS/State Patrol. website.  You generally will not find much detailed witness or first hand statements in these filings.

But they do report the road conditions at the time of the crash, whether other vehicles are involved, helmet use and time of day.  I find that information interesting, but then I'm sort of a mundane details geek anyway.  You generally won't find anything that might wind up being in a court case or insurance report.  Dave offered up a rare first person account of his crash on the web, but you generally won't run into that often.

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #186 on: June 29, 2012, 12:36:19 PM »
By the way, you might think I have scaled back my postings but the truth is there has been an incredible lull in motorcycle incidents since all the media attention 3 weeks back.  Obviously a good thing but I wonder if the heavy rains and higher than normal temps are playing a role (and not really motorcyclists being more careful and cage drivers being less distracted.)

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #187 on: June 29, 2012, 02:10:43 PM »
Those are preliminary filings of an incident from the MNDPS/State Patrol. website.  You generally will not find much detailed witness or first hand statements in these filings.

But they do report the road conditions at the time of the crash, whether other vehicles are involved, helmet use and time of day.  I find that information interesting, but then I'm sort of a mundane details geek anyway.  You generally won't find anything that might wind up being in a court case or insurance report.  Dave offered up a rare first person account of his crash on the web, but you generally won't run into that often.

I find it interesting that Dave's accident doesn't actually involve the type of motorcycle listed and certainly "failed to negotiate corner" in his case is a far cry from what I would imagine happened based on that description.  I'm pointing that out because we were pretty harsh on that group of bikes that fell down on the exit ramp with passengers using this same preliminary (inadequate?) data from the MNDPS/State Patrol website.  I believe his situation is a clear indication that we'd be foolish (in my opinion) to assess/judge/critique (dare I say "learn"?) from these reports.  I'm glad you post them (and other stories), I was surprised to find out how mistake-prone my assumptions were in this case.

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #188 on: June 29, 2012, 06:02:40 PM »
You do make an excellent point and I think the speculation has been muted on most of the filings.  However in the case of the riders who crashed on the entrance (not exit) ramp, it's hard to imagine any other scenario but the stated (too closely spaced and not looking through the turn) that led to the chortling postings.  I'll post the key line for some context:

"4 BIKES 8 PEOPLE TRAVELING WB HWY 14 ENTRANCE RAMP TO HWY 169 SB. TRAFFIC SLOWING AT BOTTOM OF THE RAMP. ALL 4 DRIVERS LOST CONTROL AND TIPPED BIKES OVER ATTEMPTING TO AVOID COLLISION."

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #189 on: July 01, 2012, 08:44:17 PM »
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/161020475.html

Detroit Lakes man dies in motorcycle crash; victim of Saturday crash identified

    Updated: July 1, 2012 - 7:08 PM

A 20-year-old man from Detroit Lakes, Minn., died early Sunday after his motorcycle ran off the road in Otter Tail County, in west-central Minnesota, and rolled over, according to the State Patrol.

The motorcyclist was headed west on Hwy. 10 west of Hwy. 78 just after 5:30 a.m. when he entered the median and rolled over, the patrol said. The cyclist, whose name has not been released, was thrown from his bike and died at the scene. He was not wearing a helmet, the patrols said.

Also Sunday, authorities identified a 34-year-old Otsego woman killed shortly after 6 p.m. Saturday when the car she was driving collided with a pickup truck at the intersection of County Road 50 and Vernon Street in Greenfield, in northwestern Hennepin County.

She was Victoria Jean Dorkins, according to the Hennepin County medical examiner.

The 23-year-old man driving the truck was taken by ambulance to North Memorial Medical Center in Robbinsdale with minor injuries, the Sheriff's Office said. A 21-year-old man who was a passenger in the truck was not hurt.

The State Patrol and the Sheriff's Office are investigating the crash.

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #190 on: July 01, 2012, 08:46:33 PM »
http://www.hastingsstargazette.com/event/article/id/27623/

Crash injures four at Point Douglas beach
Two vehicles and a motorcycle were involved in a crash on Highway 10 just west of Prescott Sunday afternoon, June 24.


 Significant damage resulted when a vehicle rear-ended another and pushed it into the path of an oncoming motorcycle. Four people were injured. Photo courtesy of Eric Christenson.

Two vehicles and a motorcycle were involved in a crash on Highway 10 just west of Prescott Sunday afternoon, June 24.

According to the State Patrol, a vehicle on eastbound Highway 10 was stopped and waiting to turn into the beach parking lot at Point Douglas Park. The vehicle was rear-ended by another eastbound vehicle and was pushed into the path of a westbound motorcycle. The motorcycle crashed into the car that had been waiting to turn.

Three occupants in the vehicle that was rear-ended reported non-life-threatening injuries, as did the driver of the motorcycle. The driver who rear-ended the vehicle waiting to turn was cited for inattentive driving.

The crash occurred at 5:05 p.m.

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #191 on: July 01, 2012, 08:53:08 PM »
All available information for
incident number 12506282.

    Incident Number:    12506282    Incident Date/Time:    6/30/2012 5:12:00 PM
    MSP District:    2500    Incident Contact:    MN STATE PATROL DISTRICT 2500 - (763) 591-4680
    Number of Individuals:    2       
    Number of Vehicles:    2    
                   
    Location:    47 HWY AT 160TH LN NW    Road Type:    BLACK TOP
    Milepost:    NONE RECORDED    Road Condition:    DRY
    County:    ANOKA    Number of Lanes:    2
    Crash Type:    HEAD ON    Divided/Undivided:    UNDIVIDED ROADWAY
    Incident Classification:    SERIOUS INJURY    Hazardous Material:    NOT PRESENT
                   
    Assisting Agencies:
       
    ANOKA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE
                   
     Person 1:    BENTURA, GARCIA , 55 , OF LINO LAKES MN , DRIVER OF VEH 1 , Phys. Cond. : NOT DOCUMENTED
     Person 2:    JACQUES, PATRICIA M , 38 , OF HAM LAKE MN , DRIVER OF VEH 2 , Phys. Cond. : NOT DOCUMENTED
     

    Vehicle 1:
       2006   KAWK RAOD STRT 

    Vehicle 2:
       2002   DODG STRATUS 
     
          
    IncidentDescription:    VEH 1 WAS TRAVELING SOUTH ON HWY 47 WHEN IT LOST CONTROL AND CROSSED INTO THE NOURTH BOUND LANES STRIKING VEH 2.
            
    Information Complete:    INFORMATION IS NOT COMPLETE   
    Last Updated:    6/30/2012 7:23:44 PM
         

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    Case Number:    12506282    Seatbelt:    N/A
    Incident Date/Time:    6/30/2012 5:12:00 PM    Airbag:    N/A
    Info Released:    6/30/2012 10:00:00 PM    Helmet:    NO
                   
    Person ID:    12506282V1P1    Age:    55
    Full Name:    BENTURA, GARCIA    Estimated Age:    ACTUAL AGE ABOVE
    Associated Vehicle:    12506282V1    Alcohol in System:    ALCOHOL DETECTED
    Role in Crash:    DRIVER    Hospital:    HCMC , MPLS 
    Residence:    LINO LAKES , MN , USA    Physical Condition:    NOT DOCUMENTED 
    Sex:    MALE       
    Relation to Driver:    SELF    Fatal Date:    N/A - NOT RECORDED

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #192 on: July 01, 2012, 08:54:40 PM »
All available information for
incident number 12310991.

    Incident Number:    12310991    Incident Date/Time:    6/29/2012 7:34:00 PM
    MSP District:    3100    Incident Contact:    MN STATE PATROL DISTRICT 3100 - (218) 749-7720
    Number of Individuals:    1       
    Number of Vehicles:    1    
                   
    Location:    5 MILES SOUTH OF MARCELL    Road Type:    BLACK TOP
    Milepost:    23    Road Condition:    DRY
    County:    ITASCA    Number of Lanes:    2
    Crash Type:    RAN OFF ROAD    Divided/Undivided:    UNDIVIDED ROADWAY
    Incident Classification:    SERIOUS INJURY    Hazardous Material:    NOT PRESENT
                   
    Assisting Agencies:
       
    ITASCA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE
    ITASCA COUNTY SHERIFF OFFICE
                   
     Person 1:    RENOLLET, ALEX A , 22 , OF GRAND RAPIDS MN , DRIVER OF VEH 1 , Phys. Cond. : INJURY - NON LIFE THREATENING
     

    Vehicle 1:
       1982   HONDA MOTORCYCLE 
     
          
    IncidentDescription:    DRIVER OF MOTORCYCLE WAS SB ON HWY 38 WHEN HE CROSSED THE NB LANE AND WENT INTO THE EAST SIDE DITCH. PARTY WAS FLOWN FROM THE SCENE TO ST MARY'S IN DULUTH. DRIVER WAS NOT WEARING A HELMET.
            
    Information Complete:    INFORMATION BELIEVED COMPLETE   
    Last Updated:    6/29/2012 10:07:30 PM


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    Case Number:    12310991    Seatbelt:    N/A
    Incident Date/Time:    6/29/2012 7:34:00 PM    Airbag:    N/A
    Info Released:    6/30/2012 12:00:00 PM    Helmet:    NO
                   
    Person ID:    12310991V1P1    Age:    22
    Full Name:    RENOLLET, ALEX A    Estimated Age:    ACTUAL AGE ABOVE
    Associated Vehicle:    12310991V1    Alcohol in System:    ALCOHOL DETECTED
    Role in Crash:    DRIVER    Hospital:    ST MARY , DULUTH 
    Residence:    GRAND RAPIDS , MN , USA    Physical Condition:    INJURY - NON LIFE THREATENING 
    Sex:    MALE       
    Relation to Driver:    SELF    Fatal Date:    N/A - NOT RECORDED

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #193 on: July 01, 2012, 08:55:56 PM »
All available information for
incident number 12900601.

    Incident Number:    12900601    Incident Date/Time:    6/28/2012 9:39:00 AM
    MSP District:    2900    Incident Contact:    MN STATE PATROL DISTRICT 2900 - (218) 846-8260
    Number of Individuals:    1       
    Number of Vehicles:    1    
                   
    Location:    601 1ST ST NE, DILWORTH, MN    Road Type:    TYPE UNKNOWN
    Milepost:    NONE RECORDED    Road Condition:    NOT RECORDED
    County:    CLAY    Number of Lanes:    NOT RECORDED
    Crash Type:    OTHER    Divided/Undivided:    UNDIVIDED ROADWAY
    Incident Classification:    PERSONAL INJURY    Hazardous Material:    NOT PRESENT
                   
    Assisting Agencies:
       
    DILWORTH POLICE DEPARTMENT
    MOORHEAD POLICE DEPARTMENT
                   
     Person 1:    GRAY, DAVID J , 28 , OF FARGO ND , DRIVER OF VEH 1 , Phys. Cond. : TREATED AND RELEASED
     

    Vehicle 1:
       2002   YAMAHA R6L CYCLE 
     
          
    IncidentDescription:    FOLLOWING A PURSUIT ON WB HWY 10 FROM MP6, DRIVER OF MOTORCYCLE WENT OVER THE HANDLE BARS RESULTING IN INJURY. DRIVER WAS TAKEN BY AMBULANCE TO SANFORD HOSPITAL, FARGO, ND. INCIDENT IS UNDER INVESTIGATION. ASSISTED ON SCENE BY FM AMBULANCE.
            
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    Last Updated:    6/28/2012 1:44:30 PM

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    Case Number:    12900601    Seatbelt:    N/A
    Incident Date/Time:    6/28/2012 9:39:00 AM    Airbag:    N/A
    Info Released:    NOT RECORDED    Helmet:    YES
                   
    Person ID:    12900601V1P1    Age:    28
    Full Name:    GRAY, DAVID J    Estimated Age:    ACTUAL AGE ABOVE
    Associated Vehicle:    12900601V1    Alcohol in System:    UNKNOWN
    Role in Crash:    DRIVER    Hospital:    SANFORD HOSPITAL , FARGO, ND 
    Residence:    FARGO , ND , USA    Physical Condition:    TREATED AND RELEASED 
    Sex:    MALE       
    Relation to Driver:    SELF    Fatal Date:    N/A - NOT RECORDED

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Re: Crashes Reported in the Media
« Reply #194 on: July 02, 2012, 10:48:15 AM »
http://www.startribune.com/local/west/161020475.html

So this guy slams into a left turning car from behind injuring three in the car. The force of the impact propels the left turning car into oncoming traffic and hits a motorcycle, injuring the rider. All this and the guy only gets an"inattentive driving" citation? That fine is probably less than $150. They should have cited him for careless or wreckless driving imo.